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‎01-22-2015 04:39 PM
On 1/22/2015 colliemom3 said:I don't blame Kate's parents for how she came out. We all know perfectly normal people who have kids with major problems. It doesn't seem like there are too many people Kate can get along with.
I don't know Kate personally or her parents so I can't say either way. There are plenty of people who have horrible parents who don't turn out so well.
Most people are a product of how they were raised. Of course there are exceptions.
‎01-22-2015 04:40 PM
On 1/22/2015 Free2be said:Jon wanted to play more than anything if what was on the show is indicative of their every day life. Those two were poorly suited for one another. Kate probably is a better parent doing it on her own than she was with him, all complaints aside.
Right. Which no one has any idea of. I don't know if he had much of a script or a role to play on the show; no one is born an actor. So maybe he was trying to show that he was giving the kids quality time by playing with them while the cameras were running? To publically admonish him nonstop was awful.
‎01-22-2015 07:20 PM
Maddy has been high-maintenance since Day 1 & I'm sure the ""nature or nurture"" debate about the cause will continue on. Maybe she was just born that way.
‎01-22-2015 07:40 PM
I watch the program and have to say I enjoy it. The kids are still cute and yes yakkie but with so many in the family to have to put up with everyone having a different opinion you have to except that there is going to be attitudes going on. I give Kate credit she had those children and she is sticking with them and trying to bring them up in a happy and civil home. A person can't fault her when she is a single Mom who has that many children and each one of them needs her attention. What ever she does to make a salary to keep the home and family going and together I am not going to bash her. She is doing what she has to be to be a Mom to a large family all close in age. As far as her statement of the rabbit hey when we were growing up we had chickens and I hated them they would fly over the fence and attack us kids. And yes my Mom did cut their heads off pull the feathers out and can them and we had them for many dinners and so did Aunts and Uncles cousins and neighbors. Did I like it ? No but that was the way people lived in the 1940 and early 50's plus that is what went on and still does on farms today. We didn't have a farm thank goodness we just had some chickens way back in our back yard.
‎01-22-2015 08:19 PM
On 1/22/2015 Ilikeshade said:On 1/22/2015 Free2be said:Jon wasn't cut out of the cloth that it takes to be a responsible father, especially one in the situation he and Kate created. I'm sure he loves his children and they, him. Same for Kate and the kids. One parent has to step up to the plate, best they can, when the other fails on multiple levels.
No one knows what their current relationships are with extended family or exactly why or the difficulties they've all experienced. Nothing in any behaviors or eye rolling indicates this family of mom and kids is anything but tight and supportive and loving of one another.
The proclamations of Maddy's poor mental/emotional health from the time she was born is just creepy weird and jaw dropping.
I don't know his background but it seems odd that they would start a family without having a job to support just one child. Maybe when they started out he was gainfully employed? Anyway, when he was on the show with Kate and the kids her public criticism of him was all encompassing. It was like there was not one single thing he could do right.
He was an accountant. As far as Maddy...she has been that way since we first caught site of her. Kate all over.
‎01-22-2015 08:22 PM
On 1/22/2015 brii said:On 1/22/2015 Free2be said:Jon wanted to play more than anything if what was on the show is indicative of their every day life. Those two were poorly suited for one another. Kate probably is a better parent doing it on her own than she was with him, all complaints aside.
I find your remarks naĂŻve and biased.Jon was a very attention and loving parent. If you watched the show from the beginning, you can see how their relationship slowly dissolved. Maybe they were poorly suited for one another. Nobody knows the answer to that.
I don't believe Kate is a better parent. They're equally at fault.
Yes he was and far more patient with Kate then I would have been. She was abusive to him in my opinion and took every opportunity to degrade his way of handling the children, the grocery shopping, actually just about everything he did...when he was trying to be helpful.
‎01-22-2015 11:01 PM
On 1/22/2015 croemer said:On 1/22/2015 brii said:On 1/22/2015 Free2be said:Jon wanted to play more than anything if what was on the show is indicative of their every day life. Those two were poorly suited for one another. Kate probably is a better parent doing it on her own than she was with him, all complaints aside.
I find your remarks naĂŻve and biased.Jon was a very attention and loving parent. If you watched the show from the beginning, you can see how their relationship slowly dissolved. Maybe they were poorly suited for one another. Nobody knows the answer to that.
I don't believe Kate is a better parent. They're equally at fault.
Yes he was and far more patient with Kate then I would have been. She was abusive to him in my opinion and took every opportunity to degrade his way of handling the children, the grocery shopping, actually just about everything he did...when he was trying to be helpful.
No one can abuse you, if you don't allow it.
‎01-23-2015 05:42 PM
If I had a mother like Kate, I would probably "act out" too.
When I was little, my parents who had a neighbor who raised hogs for sale. One day, he invited us over to see how a hog is processed. The dispatch of the hog was quick and painless. I even got to scrape the hairs off of the hide.
It didn't scar or traumatize me.
‎01-23-2015 05:46 PM
On 1/23/2015 Plaid Pants said:If I had a mother like Kate, I would probably "act out" too.
When I was little, my parents who had a neighbor who raised hogs for sale. One day, he invited us over to see how a hog is processed. The dispatch of the hog was quick and painless. I even got to scrape the hairs off of the hide.
It didn't scar or traumatize me.
I had my calf "dispatched" as I held his halter rope...........didn't have an idea that was going to happen...........while it didn't scar or traumatize me.........I never ate beef from that day forward.............................................raven
‎01-23-2015 05:53 PM
On 1/23/2015 raven-blackbird said:On 1/23/2015 Plaid Pants said:If I had a mother like Kate, I would probably "act out" too.
When I was little, my parents who had a neighbor who raised hogs for sale. One day, he invited us over to see how a hog is processed. The dispatch of the hog was quick and painless. I even got to scrape the hairs off of the hide.
It didn't scar or traumatize me.
I had my calf "dispatched" as I held his halter rope...........didn't have an idea that was going to happen...........while it didn't scar or traumatize me.........I never ate beef from that day forward.............................................raven
I don't eat pork now, (except for bacon!), not because of seeing a hog being butchered, but because I find most commercially processed pork to be too salty.
That pork that I had as a child was some of the leanest, best tasting pork that I have ever had in my whole entire life.
I didn't cry for the hog, because I knew that it was being processed for food.
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