Community Chat

[sashamatthews]

We go because we are the best in the world at this type of investigation.  Our team will assist but also learn so that, as another poster said, a future accident may be prevented. 

[JustJazzmom]

@terrier3

I remember that accident when it made all the newspapers across NYS.

[Stray]

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@terrier3 wrote:

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@KathyPet wrote:

sorry, but can you cite examples of a airline crash on US soil involving a US Airliner when experts from other countries were asked to assist because I have never read  of any such assistance being used.  This was a crash involving No US citizens, not on US soil and not involving a US airline so why are we there?  As far as learning every time a crash happens there are extensive investigations and reports issued.  Why can't we learn from those?  Why do we have to spend our tax money flying people to another country for something like this?

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Whenever the plane was made in France or Germany or England (plane parts like engines too) - officials from those companies investigate US crashes.

I can't believe ANYONE would object to our tax money going to help investigate crashes ANYWHERE in the world - since this research ultimately helps make US domestic air travel safer too.

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The reason for the existence of these  agencies is to improve airline safety world wide.  I fly a lot and am happy to spend my tax dollars on something that is beneficial to everyone.  Their budget is relatively small when you consider what they do, how good they are at their jobs and the benefits we all receive as a result of their work.  You actually see your taxes work with this agency.  I can't say the same for all agencies, right now, the EPA comes to mind. 

[terrier3]

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

@terrier3

I remember that accident when it made all the newspapers across NYS.

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It STILL needs to be in the headlines.

I have never flown on a commuter airline since this happened...Jet Blue all the way for me! They pay decent wages and hire pilots with experience.

The families go down to DC regularly...it's a never ending battle to enforce safety rules...and also disclosure on who actually owns and runs the plane you fly on.

Colgan Air - the cheapskates who caused this tragedy - were not listed on the flight...it flew in the name of Continental - who had absolutely no control over the commuter airline (and weren't required to by law!). People got on that plane expecting a certain amount of safety and experience - I know I wouldn't fly on a plane (in a winter storm no less!) if I knew that the pilot had flunked out repeatedly on tests at larger airlines, and was paid 33K a year - and the co-pilot was flying sick and made 18K - and had NO experience with ice on the wings.

[Q4u]

I can't believe ANYONE would object to our tax money going to help investigate crashes ANYWHERE in the world - since this research ultimately helps make US domestic air travel safer too.

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I absolutely agree.  Intelligence gathered by this agency for the future safety of airlines and flight is imperative and IMHO worth every penny.

[CatsyCline]

@terrier3    i booked a  Colgan Air CON flight about a month after that 3407 crash. out of Newark to PVD.  thought it was a regular Continental .  unaware, i booked it on Cheap flights lol.   don't recall any notes when i booked.

it was a one-way flight that was to depart at 8 ish. strangely for a quick flight - there were several long delays - long enough for me to have a sit-down meal -  and the gate was moved 3 times and at 11pm we were still waiting for crew!  same type of plane, a DHC Bombadier. when i saw it pull up to the gate oy ...then i remembered that ill-fated plane

someone joked  they were trying to dig up a pilot who wasnt over the alotted flight hours! i had no idea that this flight was Colgan until after!    it was  short flight but a bit bumpy and they were feeding everyone drinks! 2 for the price of one!!  i think it was supposed to be a one-drink only because it was less than an hour in flight.  now i always check to see if a flight is operated by a sub par airline!!

[Plaid Pants2]

Airplane safety is priceless.

I mean, how much would you (general use of the word) pay to make sure that the plane that you or a loved one is flying in is safe and has passed all inspections, and that the pilots were up to snuff?

The government may cut corners on many things in the name of saving money, but the safety of airline passengers shouldn't be one of them.

Would you (again, general use of the word) want to fly at 30,000 feet in a vessel that hasn't been inspected, or is in sub-par condition, all because the government decided to save a couple of bucks, and sacrificed safety to do so?

Because I know that I sure wouldn't.

[Brooklynny]

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@Stray wrote:

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@terrier3 wrote:

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@KathyPet wrote:

sorry, but can you cite examples of a airline crash on US soil involving a US Airliner when experts from other countries were asked to assist because I have never read  of any such assistance being used.  This was a crash involving No US citizens, not on US soil and not involving a US airline so why are we there?  As far as learning every time a crash happens there are extensive investigations and reports issued.  Why can't we learn from those?  Why do we have to spend our tax money flying people to another country for something like this?

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Whenever the plane was made in France or Germany or England (plane parts like engines too) - officials from those companies investigate US crashes.

I can't believe ANYONE would object to our tax money going to help investigate crashes ANYWHERE in the world - since this research ultimately helps make US domestic air travel safer too.

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The reason for the existence of these  agencies is to improve airline safety world wide.  I fly a lot and am happy to spend my tax dollars on something that is beneficial to everyone.  Their budget is relatively small when you consider what they do, how good they are at their jobs and the benefits we all receive as a result of their work.  You actually see your taxes work with this agency.  I can't say the same for all agencies, right now, the EPA comes to mind. 

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@Stray, I live in three blocks away from a toxic waterway that has been polluted for nearly 100 years.  It is only now, in 2015-16, that the waterway will be cleaned up after the EPA was brought in, and after investigations and exhaustive testing, declared it a Superfund site.  The EPA is now fighting the City Of NY on our behalf to force them to pay for part, if not all, of the cleanup which will take a decade.  You may think your taxes are not at work with the EPA, but I think my taxes are well at work and will finally eliminate the toxicity of my environment.

[MaggieMack]

The EPA failed monumentally in Flint. 

[Drythe]

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@KathyPet wrote:

sorry, but can you cite examples of a airline crash on US soil involving a US Airliner when experts from other countries were asked to assist because I have never read  of any such assistance being used.  This was a crash involving No US citizens, not on US soil and not involving a US airline so why are we there?  As far as learning every time a crash happens there are extensive investigations and reports issued.  Why can't we learn from those?  Why do we have to spend our tax money flying people to another country for something like this?

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@KathyPet

What was it someone said about posts that start out ,"sorry but"?

Did you read about 911?

On US soil, involving US planes, US airlines,  US air space & trafic control, predominately US citizens, and yet many other countries gave help here and networking around the world.