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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

Hold on a minute. Are you a registered STNA or just an aide? STNA's are trained and have guidelines to follow established by Medicare. Are you just someone who works for an agency that sends out people to do cooking, cleaning and errands? If so, I would never have guessed that they would send out a female into a man's home alone, unsupervised, not knowing if this man had dementia or other severe issues (mental). Clients of Medicare approved agencies have first been seen by doctors and registered nurses so that they know exactly what kind of issues to deal with. My father hired an aide to help my mother with bathing, dressing and medications, but he was always present. She has severe dementia and because of it has lashed out, cursed, done inappropriate things because she doesn't know better at times.

You put yourself and him in a very precarious position. Not only could he have been at risk but so could you. What if he reported you as the one making advances. And never in my life have I known it to be okay to bring a dog to a client;'s home. Never. The dog would immediately become a liability. What if he tried to protect you and bit the man? Who them would be responsible? You? The agency? Did you tell them you were bringing a dog?

Sounds to me like this was a case of no boundaries and things got out of control. Does the man have a family? Who is his POA? In my family, anyone that comes in to help has a background check done. the agency they come from is vetted and there is always another family member present. The situation you described would never be tolerated.

I'm done with P.C. Just say what you mean and mean what you say. It's easier.
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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

On 3/11/2015 mochachino said:

Hold on a minute. Are you a registered STNA or just an aide? STNA's are trained and have guidelines to follow established by Medicare. Are you just someone who works for an agency that sends out people to do cooking, cleaning and errands? If so, I would never have guessed that they would send out a female into a man's home alone, unsupervised, not knowing if this man had dementia or other severe issues (mental). Clients of Medicare approved agencies have first been seen by doctors and registered nurses so that they know exactly what kind of issues to deal with. My father hired an aide to help my mother with bathing, dressing and medications, but he was always present. She has severe dementia and because of it has lashed out, cursed, done inappropriate things because she doesn't know better at times.

You put yourself and him in a very precarious position. Not only could he have been at risk but so could you. What if he reported you as the one making advances. And never in my life have I known it to be okay to bring a dog to a client;'s home. Never. The dog would immediately become a liability. What if he tried to protect you and bit the man? Who them would be responsible? You? The agency? Did you tell them you were bringing a dog?

Sounds to me like this was a case of no boundaries and things got out of control. Does the man have a family? Who is his POA? In my family, anyone that comes in to help has a background check done. the agency they come from is vetted and there is always another family member present. The situation you described would never be tolerated.

Very valid points - I suspect this Agency is not State Licensed and just running a sham operation (they certainly sound like a "fly by night" company). Her supervisor should, at the very least be an LPN, preferably an RN.

I hope Jules comes back to shed some light about them, for us...{#emotions_dlg.confused1}

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

On 3/11/2015 mochachino said:

Hold on a minute. Are you a registered STNA or just an aide? STNA's are trained and have guidelines to follow established by Medicare. Are you just someone who works for an agency that sends out people to do cooking, cleaning and errands? If so, I would never have guessed that they would send out a female into a man's home alone, unsupervised, not knowing if this man had dementia or other severe issues (mental). Clients of Medicare approved agencies have first been seen by doctors and registered nurses so that they know exactly what kind of issues to deal with. My father hired an aide to help my mother with bathing, dressing and medications, but he was always present. She has severe dementia and because of it has lashed out, cursed, done inappropriate things because she doesn't know better at times.

You put yourself and him in a very precarious position. Not only could he have been at risk but so could you. What if he reported you as the one making advances. And never in my life have I known it to be okay to bring a dog to a client;'s home. Never. The dog would immediately become a liability. What if he tried to protect you and bit the man? Who them would be responsible? You? The agency? Did you tell them you were bringing a dog?

Sounds to me like this was a case of no boundaries and things got out of control. Does the man have a family? Who is his POA? In my family, anyone that comes in to help has a background check done. the agency they come from is vetted and there is always another family member present. The situation you described would never be tolerated.

That's almost exactly what I said but almost everyone here is giving her the "high fives". She didn't do anything right and I wonder how much of this story is even true. Sorry, but I am very leary. Some people just have a certain history that's hard to forget. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

Everyone play nice so this doesn't get deleted and Jules can finish the story.

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

On 3/11/2015 sophiamarie said:
On 3/11/2015 mochachino said:

Hold on a minute. Are you a registered STNA or just an aide? STNA's are trained and have guidelines to follow established by Medicare. Are you just someone who works for an agency that sends out people to do cooking, cleaning and errands? If so, I would never have guessed that they would send out a female into a man's home alone, unsupervised, not knowing if this man had dementia or other severe issues (mental). Clients of Medicare approved agencies have first been seen by doctors and registered nurses so that they know exactly what kind of issues to deal with. My father hired an aide to help my mother with bathing, dressing and medications, but he was always present. She has severe dementia and because of it has lashed out, cursed, done inappropriate things because she doesn't know better at times.

You put yourself and him in a very precarious position. Not only could he have been at risk but so could you. What if he reported you as the one making advances. And never in my life have I known it to be okay to bring a dog to a client;'s home. Never. The dog would immediately become a liability. What if he tried to protect you and bit the man? Who them would be responsible? You? The agency? Did you tell them you were bringing a dog?

Sounds to me like this was a case of no boundaries and things got out of control. Does the man have a family? Who is his POA? In my family, anyone that comes in to help has a background check done. the agency they come from is vetted and there is always another family member present. The situation you described would never be tolerated.

That's almost exactly what I said but almost everyone here is giving her the "high fives". She didn't do anything right and I wonder how much of this story is even true. Sorry, but I am very leary. Some people just have a certain history that's hard to forget. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

I know what you mean. But she also has a habit of not coming back when some of the posters question the stories, or if so, she comes back with a vengeance.

Like I said if this happened in my father's home as she described it, my brother (an attorney) would be filing paperwork against the agency before the aide's feet hit the ground. Something just doesn't seem right here.

I'm done with P.C. Just say what you mean and mean what you say. It's easier.
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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

On 3/11/2015 LizAnne said:

Everyone play nice so this doesn't get deleted and Jules can finish the story.

I would be curious to know just what sort of training she had going into this job and what sort of guidelines she was given.

Sounds like she was just winging it.

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

On 3/11/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/11/2015 LizAnne said:

Everyone play nice so this doesn't get deleted and Jules can finish the story.

I would be curious to know just what sort of training she had going into this job and what sort of guidelines she was given.

Sounds like she was just winging it.

I doubt she was an actual Home Health Care Aide.....sounds more like a Home Aide because of the "duties" she says were part of her responsibilities.....light cleaning and cooking

It would be doubtful she even has this job after her talk to her "supervisor".....she put them in a very bad situation liability wise..........forget the dog biting the old dude, he could have tripped over the dog, been knocked down as he played with it....and her employer would have been held liable for any injuries he sustained from the fall........that would make her an employment risk in this type of job... with any credible agency

she also didn't demonstrate good judgement, let alone professional judgement........you don't sit on a "clients" bed........you don't scream at them I'm not a Prostitute..........mainly because you don't do things that get you to that point........ and when incidents arise.......no pun intended........you don't let it progress, you STOP it at the first sign of impropriety...........when the old man took off his sweats she should have said something right then......actually when he asked her to sit on the bed with him the FIRST time or asked for a hug the FIRST time, she should have told him then he was a client, she was not there to fill that capacity and she would appreciate he be mindful of that fact or other arrangements would need to be made

If you're hired to act in a professional capacity......you need to behave accordingly........professionaly.....................................raven

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

On 3/11/2015 raven-blackbird said:
On 3/11/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/11/2015 LizAnne said:

Everyone play nice so this doesn't get deleted and Jules can finish the story.

I would be curious to know just what sort of training she had going into this job and what sort of guidelines she was given.

Sounds like she was just winging it.

I doubt she was an actual Home Health Care Aide.....sounds more like a Home Aide because of the "duties" she says were part of her responsibilities.....light cleaning and cooking

It would be doubtful she even has this job after her talk to her "supervisor".....she put them in a very bad situation liability wise..........forget the dog biting the old dude, he could have tripped over the dog, been knocked down as he played with it....and her employer would have been held liable for any injuries he sustained from the fall........that would make her an employment risk in this type of job... with any credible agency

she also didn't demonstrate good judgement, let alone professional judgement........you don't sit on a "clients" bed........you don't scream at them I'm not a Prostitute..........mainly because you don't do things that get you to that point........ and when incidents arise.......no pun intended........you don't let it progress, you STOP it at the first sign of impropriety...........when the old man took off his sweats she should have said something right then......actually when he asked her to sit on the bed with him the FIRST time or asked for a hug the FIRST time, she should have told him then he was a client, she was not there to fill that capacity and she would appreciate he be mindful of that fact or other arrangements would need to be made

If you're hired to act in a professional capacity......you need to behave accordingly........professionaly.....................................raven

You are in SO much trouble.

{#emotions_dlg.laugh}

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

On 3/11/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/11/2015 raven-blackbird said:
On 3/11/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/11/2015 LizAnne said:

Everyone play nice so this doesn't get deleted and Jules can finish the story.

I would be curious to know just what sort of training she had going into this job and what sort of guidelines she was given.

Sounds like she was just winging it.

I doubt she was an actual Home Health Care Aide.....sounds more like a Home Aide because of the "duties" she says were part of her responsibilities.....light cleaning and cooking

It would be doubtful she even has this job after her talk to her "supervisor".....she put them in a very bad situation liability wise..........forget the dog biting the old dude, he could have tripped over the dog, been knocked down as he played with it....and her employer would have been held liable for any injuries he sustained from the fall........that would make her an employment risk in this type of job... with any credible agency

she also didn't demonstrate good judgement, let alone professional judgement........you don't sit on a "clients" bed........you don't scream at them I'm not a Prostitute..........mainly because you don't do things that get you to that point........ and when incidents arise.......no pun intended........you don't let it progress, you STOP it at the first sign of impropriety...........when the old man took off his sweats she should have said something right then......actually when he asked her to sit on the bed with him the FIRST time or asked for a hug the FIRST time, she should have told him then he was a client, she was not there to fill that capacity and she would appreciate he be mindful of that fact or other arrangements would need to be made

If you're hired to act in a professional capacity......you need to behave accordingly........professionally.....................................raven

You are in SO much trouble.

{#emotions_dlg.laugh}

how????????? why???????????

She asked.......... "Did I handle things the best way possible? What else should I have done, if anything."..........I just answered her question.................................raven

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Re: Job Issue - need to vent... what would you do?

On 3/11/2015 raven-blackbird said:
On 3/11/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/11/2015 raven-blackbird said:
On 3/11/2015 KittyLouSoutenu said:
On 3/11/2015 LizAnne said:

Everyone play nice so this doesn't get deleted and Jules can finish the story.

I would be curious to know just what sort of training she had going into this job and what sort of guidelines she was given.

Sounds like she was just winging it.

I doubt she was an actual Home Health Care Aide.....sounds more like a Home Aide because of the "duties" she says were part of her responsibilities.....light cleaning and cooking

It would be doubtful she even has this job after her talk to her "supervisor".....she put them in a very bad situation liability wise..........forget the dog biting the old dude, he could have tripped over the dog, been knocked down as he played with it....and her employer would have been held liable for any injuries he sustained from the fall........that would make her an employment risk in this type of job... with any credible agency

she also didn't demonstrate good judgement, let alone professional judgement........you don't sit on a "clients" bed........you don't scream at them I'm not a Prostitute..........mainly because you don't do things that get you to that point........ and when incidents arise.......no pun intended........you don't let it progress, you STOP it at the first sign of impropriety...........when the old man took off his sweats she should have said something right then......actually when he asked her to sit on the bed with him the FIRST time or asked for a hug the FIRST time, she should have told him then he was a client, she was not there to fill that capacity and she would appreciate he be mindful of that fact or other arrangements would need to be made

If you're hired to act in a professional capacity......you need to behave accordingly........professionally.....................................raven

You are in SO much trouble.

{#emotions_dlg.laugh}

how????????? why???????????

She asked.......... "Did I handle things the best way possible? What else should I have done, if anything."..........I just answered her question.................................raven

I think you know why. Criticism doesn't go over well.

But hey, you're not alone.