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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.


@suzyQ3 wrote:

I just this morning read a different outcome in a study in the Los Angeles Times from the study in Israel. I think that are several variables among these studies.


@suzyQ3 @I'd post the original study but it is still in Hebrew with no translation yet. 

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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.

Did you know there are two Delta variants? Delta and Delta Plus. 

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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.

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@Mindy D wrote:

In Israel, vaccination with the Pfizer vaccine was less effective in prevention of getting COVID. 64% fully vaccinated Israelis from June to the beginning of July were protected according to the government. This figure was a drop from the previous figure of 94%. The Israel Health Ministry said this drop was seen in conjunction with spread of the Delta variant and coincided with the lifting of restrictions regarding the virus which began in June. The vaccinations still demonstrated good protection against severe illness, however, the prevention of hospitalization fell from the previous 97% to 93%. Among vaccinated persons there were far more infections, with 55% of those newly infected being vaccinated. As of today, there were 35 serious cases compared to 21 serious cases on June 19th. The Israel government will be studying those vaccinated persons that contracted COVID, looking at factors such as the age, dates of inoculations and underlying health conditions. About 57% of Israelis are fully vaccinated with Pfizer. It does seem that the vaccine offers protection against Delta, but not at the same level as it has against other variants. The Israeli government is considering reinstating restrictions such as mask wearing inside public places and social distancing. 


 Source?


@ThinkingOutLoud I have six sources. All the sources got their information  from the original source, which is in Hebrew, or I'd give you that. I'll still name the Hebrew source, but it isn't in translation yet. I'll try to give you my sources in a while but they are all online news agencies. I'll be back. 
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Bloomberg

Wall Street Journal

Yahoo Finance

Reuters 

Times of Israel

Fortune

Ynet News (Israel) In Hebrew, using Data from Israel Health Ministry

 

Here's one of the titles:

Reuters

Israel sees drop in Pfizer vaccine protection against infections, still strong in severe illness

 

 

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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.

 


@Mindy D wrote:

Did you know there are two Delta variants? Delta and Delta Plus. 


As long as there are large numbers of unvaccinated people in the same geographic area the variants will continue to mutate making themselves more viable. This is watching evolution in real time.

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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.


@Mindy D wrote:

Did you know there are two Delta variants? Delta and Delta Plus. 


What about Delta Business Class?

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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.


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@Mindy D wrote:

Did you know there are two Delta variants? Delta and Delta Plus. 


As long as there are large numbers of unvaccinated people in the same geographic area the variants will continue to mutate making themselves more viable. This is watching evolution in real time.


@On It @Yes it is. 

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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.

Israel had most residents vaccinated early in the Pandemic. Perhaps immunity decreases over time.

 

Some can't be vaccinated, others who have been vaccinated didn't produce a sufficient number of antibodies.

 

Some who decided against getting the vaccine are concerned about the handling, has it been kept at the proper temperature, and the long term effect which is unknown.

 

Vaccinated or not, the prudent are still being cautious, staying out of crowds and wearing a mask.

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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.

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@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:

@Mindy D wrote:

In Israel, vaccination with the Pfizer vaccine was less effective in prevention of getting COVID. 64% fully vaccinated Israelis from June to the beginning of July were protected according to the government. This figure was a drop from the previous figure of 94%. The Israel Health Ministry said this drop was seen in conjunction with spread of the Delta variant and coincided with the lifting of restrictions regarding the virus which began in June. The vaccinations still demonstrated good protection against severe illness, however, the prevention of hospitalization fell from the previous 97% to 93%. Among vaccinated persons there were far more infections, with 55% of those newly infected being vaccinated. As of today, there were 35 serious cases compared to 21 serious cases on June 19th. The Israel government will be studying those vaccinated persons that contracted COVID, looking at factors such as the age, dates of inoculations and underlying health conditions. About 57% of Israelis are fully vaccinated with Pfizer. It does seem that the vaccine offers protection against Delta, but not at the same level as it has against other variants. The Israeli government is considering reinstating restrictions such as mask wearing inside public places and social distancing. 


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As of 51 min. ago FFOX news is carrying it.  

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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.


@Mindy D wrote:

@suzyQ3 wrote:

I just this morning read a different outcome in a study in the Los Angeles Times from the study in Israel. I think that are several variables among these studies.


@suzyQ3 @I'd post the original study but it is still in Hebrew with no translation yet. 


I'm doubting you, @Mindy D. I just don't think we know enough yet to take any one study and run with it.

 

I'm sticking with what the experts have said so far: If you are fully vaccinated, you are very unlikely to get any of the variants so far; and if you do, it it is very likely that you will not get seriously ill or die.


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Re: Israeli protection from Pfizer vaccine drops from 94% to 64%. Possibly due to Delta variant.

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Israel had most residents vaccinated early in the Pandemic. Perhaps immunity decreases over time.

 

Some can't be vaccinated, others who have been vaccinated didn't produce a sufficient number of antibodies.

 

Some who decided against getting the vaccine are concerned about the handling, has it been kept at the proper temperature, and the long term effect which is unknown.

 

Vaccinated or not, the prudent are still being cautious, staying out of crowds and wearing a mask.



@occasionalrain wrote:

Israel had most residents vaccinated early in the Pandemic. Perhaps immunity decreases over time.

 

Some can't be vaccinated, others who have been vaccinated didn't produce a sufficient number of antibodies.

 

Some who decided against getting the vaccine are concerned about the handling, has it been kept at the proper temperature, and the long term effect which is unknown.

 

Vaccinated or not, the prudent are still being cautious, staying out of crowds and wearing a mask.


@occasionalrain @The Israelis and Pfizer will be checking vaccination dates and antibodies to determine which variables could have played a part in the change in numbers. They will be sequencing some of the viral DNA from vaccinated and unvaccinated patients to determine if they were, in fact, infected with Delta or Delta Plus. They are also checking age, health status and underlying conditions.