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[hyacinth003]

My daughter works in a fast food restaurant, and has been recently been promoted to be a manager.

Because of this, they have required her to take a few classes for certifications. Like state certification for food safety, etc.

Last week, she spent 8 hours in class and about 3 1/2 hours commuting to this class. Now they told her she will not be paid for her time, only the cost of the class.

They also told her they will not give her salary increase during her training period. They said that only when she fully functioned as a manager would they give her that pay.

This has certainly not been my experience in the workplace. I have always been paid for mandatory classes outside my workplace. I was also paid whatever salary my position said it did.

She is not going to make anything of it. Obviously they must be able to do this.

I have to admit being shocked by this. Is this common practice?

Hyacinth

[KathyPet]

No this is wrong. if this class was required by the company as part of her job requirements she MUST be paid for the time she spent in the class but not for the commute time although she should get mileage expense for the use of her car. it amazes me how many supervisors, managers are totally ignorant of the law.

[Irshgrl31201]

Is your daughter currently working on salary or is she still paid by the hour?

[NoelSeven]

From what I get by way of DD and friends, they are paid for taking mandatory classes or any type of meeting.

They are not paid for commute time.

No salary increase during training.

What is most popular is to hire people for a probationary period (up to 6 months) and then let them go before full benefits can be paid, or to hire for limited-time jobs for the same reason.

It's awful, imo.

[lulu2]

I never worked it fast food but when I was teaching, I was reimbursed for courses, but not paid for my time. We would not have been hired for a position unless we had completed the requirements. Advancement on the salary guide would only take place the semester after coursework was completed.

[CelticCrafter]

My daughter is a manager for one of the Darden concepts and when she accepted the position, she was paid the full managers salary she agreed to during her three months of training time.

[VioletEyes]

Hyacinth, didn't they explain to her prior to this advancement what the requirements would be and what she would be paid for?

I think it is unfair but unfortunately, businesses today can be ruthless....

Congratulations, though, to your daughter for a job well done.

[Irshgrl31201]

Here is the criteria for payment according to the Dept of Labor.

<h2>Criteria for Payment</h2>

The Department of Labor has four criteria to ascertain if training is reimbursable to an employee. The first variable regards the time of the training. If attendance is outside the employee's normal working hours then the employer may not be liable. Another important question for employers is whether attendance is voluntary and additionally, if the employee is performing any work during the training. If the employee is voluntarily attending training, not working during the training, and the training does not specifically address the job, then the company does not have to pay the employee for this time.

I think it is best that you call the Dept of Labor in your state to get the best information.

[hyacinth003]

On 3/10/2015 Irshgrl31201 said:

Is your daughter currently working on salary or is she still paid by the hour?

She is still an hourly employee.

The pay increase is per hour. But, she hasn't received it yet.

Hyacinth

[hyacinth003]

On 3/10/2015 SoftRaindrops said:

Hyacinth, didn't they explain to her prior to this advancement what the requirements would be and what she would be paid for?

I think it is unfair but unfortunately, businesses today can be ruthless....

Congratulations, though, to your daughter for a job well done.

No, they didn't tell her any of this!

They are not big on information!

Hyacinth