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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?


@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy  No new car needs maintenance in the first 3 months unless you are drag racing.  


Sounds like a manufacturing or dealer issue.  Has nothing to do with the purpose of the system. 





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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?


@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@itsmagic wrote:

My car is a 2002 so no bells and whistles but still has automatic windows, automatic locks - the basics which I like. My husband's car is a 2014 with more gadgets and every once in a while he gets a low tire warning on his dash (especially during the change of seasons). One time it was the tire warning system itself that had to be fixed. I know it is a safety feature but I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. 


@itsmagic  OMG don't get me started!  When I got my new car with this "safety feature", it took three, count them, three trips to the dealership to finally get one of those devices that actually worked and stopped going off every month.  And I work full time so that was incredibly inconvenient and costly since I don't get paid if I'm not clocked in.  

 

I almost, almost donned the ninja outfit and stole my old car back.    


Seriously, I love that feature.  Properly maintaining your tire pressure, particularly during changes in the season, is very important.  Proper tire pressure extent the life of the tire, improve gas mileage and allows for better handling.  Anyone who has ever had a slow leak in a tire will tell you how valuable that feature is. 


@CrazyDaisy I did just fine for the first 12 years of my driving life with a gas station air pump and a plastic tire pressure gauge.  

 

And yes I've had plenty of flats in my life but they were all due to lazy construction workers who didn't secure or pick up their nails and screws after the job was done.


Good luck finding a gas station air pump around here.


@CrazyDaisy  Don't need one.  I have a mini compressor now and my trusty plastic gauge that's still kicking.  

 

I never understood the philosophy of waiting until your car broke down to take care of it.  Your car shouldn't have to warn you you're not doing what you should.  It should be a big enough investment that you care enough to do it.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

I completely agree!!! I put gas in my car when the gas gage is close to a quarter tank.

 

I get the oil changed every three thousand miles.

 

And I carry my own little tire gage that tells me the tire pressure.

 

I don't need a car to do the thinking for me.

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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?

@Plaid Pants2  Amen!  It's a wonder the human race survived before the government decided to "help" us out.  Smiley Wink

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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?

Some features I do not use in my car but I love the back-up camera and the message center that tells me when my tires need air. I rarely use my cell phone but it's nice to know it is connected through Bluetooth.

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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?


@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@itsmagic wrote:

My car is a 2002 so no bells and whistles but still has automatic windows, automatic locks - the basics which I like. My husband's car is a 2014 with more gadgets and every once in a while he gets a low tire warning on his dash (especially during the change of seasons). One time it was the tire warning system itself that had to be fixed. I know it is a safety feature but I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. 


@itsmagic  OMG don't get me started!  When I got my new car with this "safety feature", it took three, count them, three trips to the dealership to finally get one of those devices that actually worked and stopped going off every month.  And I work full time so that was incredibly inconvenient and costly since I don't get paid if I'm not clocked in.  

 

I almost, almost donned the ninja outfit and stole my old car back.    


Seriously, I love that feature.  Properly maintaining your tire pressure, particularly during changes in the season, is very important.  Proper tire pressure extent the life of the tire, improve gas mileage and allows for better handling.  Anyone who has ever had a slow leak in a tire will tell you how valuable that feature is. 


@CrazyDaisy I did just fine for the first 12 years of my driving life with a gas station air pump and a plastic tire pressure gauge.  

 

And yes I've had plenty of flats in my life but they were all due to lazy construction workers who didn't secure or pick up their nails and screws after the job was done.


Good luck finding a gas station air pump around here.


@CrazyDaisy  Don't need one.  I have a mini compressor now and my trusty plastic gauge that's still kicking.  

 

I never understood the philosophy of waiting until your car broke down to take care of it.  Your car shouldn't have to warn you you're not doing what you should.  It should be a big enough investment that you care enough to do it.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

I completely agree!!! I put gas in my car when the gas gage is close to a quarter tank.

 

I get the oil changed every three thousand miles.

 

And I carry my own little tire gage that tells me the tire pressure.

 

I don't need a car to do the thinking for me.


Just curious....how would you know to put gas in the car if there was no gauge?  Kind of like a heads up to check you tire pressure when the indicator light comes on. 

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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?


@Laura14 wrote:

@Plaid Pants2  Amen!  It's a wonder the human race survived before the government decided to "help" us out.  Smiley Wink


 

 

I would like to see the specific law where it mandates that all cars MUST have back up cameras.

 

Because until I see that specific law, having that camera is a want that people just think that they need.

 

And as I said, my 2013 Toyota did not come with one.

 

So if it was a "law" ( which I highly doubt), either my car would have had it, or I would have received notice to get one.

 

Sine neither has happened, I am left to come to the conclusion that it really isn't a law at all, but just some rhetoric that people are spewing to try and strengthen their argument as to why they "must" have one.

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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?


@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@Plaid Pants2  Amen!  It's a wonder the human race survived before the government decided to "help" us out.  Smiley Wink


 

 

I would like to see the specific law where it mandates that all cars MUST have back up cameras.

 

Because until I see that specific law, having that camera is a want that people just think that they need.

 

And as I said, my 2013 Toyota did not come with one.

 

So if it was a "law" ( which I highly doubt), either my car would have had it, or I would have received notice to get one.

 

Sine neither has happened, I am left to come to the conclusion that it really isn't a law at all, but just some rhetoric that people are spewing to try and strengthen their argument as to why they "must" have one.


www.autotrader.com/.../new-backup-camera-rule-cameras-will-be-mandato

 

you can also just google backup camera mandatory for more information

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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?


@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@itsmagic wrote:

My car is a 2002 so no bells and whistles but still has automatic windows, automatic locks - the basics which I like. My husband's car is a 2014 with more gadgets and every once in a while he gets a low tire warning on his dash (especially during the change of seasons). One time it was the tire warning system itself that had to be fixed. I know it is a safety feature but I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. 


@itsmagic  OMG don't get me started!  When I got my new car with this "safety feature", it took three, count them, three trips to the dealership to finally get one of those devices that actually worked and stopped going off every month.  And I work full time so that was incredibly inconvenient and costly since I don't get paid if I'm not clocked in.  

 

I almost, almost donned the ninja outfit and stole my old car back.    


Seriously, I love that feature.  Properly maintaining your tire pressure, particularly during changes in the season, is very important.  Proper tire pressure extent the life of the tire, improve gas mileage and allows for better handling.  Anyone who has ever had a slow leak in a tire will tell you how valuable that feature is. 


@CrazyDaisy I did just fine for the first 12 years of my driving life with a gas station air pump and a plastic tire pressure gauge.  

 

And yes I've had plenty of flats in my life but they were all due to lazy construction workers who didn't secure or pick up their nails and screws after the job was done.


Good luck finding a gas station air pump around here.


@CrazyDaisy  Don't need one.  I have a mini compressor now and my trusty plastic gauge that's still kicking.  

 

I never understood the philosophy of waiting until your car broke down to take care of it.  Your car shouldn't have to warn you you're not doing what you should.  It should be a big enough investment that you care enough to do it.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

I completely agree!!! I put gas in my car when the gas gage is close to a quarter tank.

 

I get the oil changed every three thousand miles.

 

And I carry my own little tire gage that tells me the tire pressure.

 

I don't need a car to do the thinking for me.


Just curious....how would you know to put gas in the car if there was no gauge?  Kind of like a heads up to check you tire pressure when the indicator light comes on. 


 

 

 

 

I once was the primary driver of my parents 1972 Dodge van, and it had a broken gas gage.

 

 

Do you know how I prevented from running out of gas?

 

 I calculated the miles driven, and filed up every Monday.

 

It isn't hard.

 

I just used my brain.

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Re: Is it even possible to buy a car today without all the bells and whistles?


@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@Laura14 wrote:

@itsmagic wrote:

My car is a 2002 so no bells and whistles but still has automatic windows, automatic locks - the basics which I like. My husband's car is a 2014 with more gadgets and every once in a while he gets a low tire warning on his dash (especially during the change of seasons). One time it was the tire warning system itself that had to be fixed. I know it is a safety feature but I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. 


@itsmagic  OMG don't get me started!  When I got my new car with this "safety feature", it took three, count them, three trips to the dealership to finally get one of those devices that actually worked and stopped going off every month.  And I work full time so that was incredibly inconvenient and costly since I don't get paid if I'm not clocked in.  

 

I almost, almost donned the ninja outfit and stole my old car back.    


Seriously, I love that feature.  Properly maintaining your tire pressure, particularly during changes in the season, is very important.  Proper tire pressure extent the life of the tire, improve gas mileage and allows for better handling.  Anyone who has ever had a slow leak in a tire will tell you how valuable that feature is. 


@CrazyDaisy I did just fine for the first 12 years of my driving life with a gas station air pump and a plastic tire pressure gauge.  

 

And yes I've had plenty of flats in my life but they were all due to lazy construction workers who didn't secure or pick up their nails and screws after the job was done.


Good luck finding a gas station air pump around here.


@CrazyDaisy  Don't need one.  I have a mini compressor now and my trusty plastic gauge that's still kicking.  

 

I never understood the philosophy of waiting until your car broke down to take care of it.  Your car shouldn't have to warn you you're not doing what you should.  It should be a big enough investment that you care enough to do it.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

I completely agree!!! I put gas in my car when the gas gage is close to a quarter tank.

 

I get the oil changed every three thousand miles.

 

And I carry my own little tire gage that tells me the tire pressure.

 

I don't need a car to do the thinking for me.


Just curious....how would you know to put gas in the car if there was no gauge?  Kind of like a heads up to check you tire pressure when the indicator light comes on. 


 

 

 

 

I once was the primary driver of my parents 1972 Dodge van, and it had a broken gas gage.

 

 

Do you know how I prevented from running out of gas?

 

 I calculated the miles driven, and filed up every Monday.

 

It isn't hard.

 

I just used my brain.


So you are against gas gauges also....How about the tempature gauge?

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