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[ThinkingOutLoud]

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@Pook wrote:

I haven't noticed any shortages.  If employers would pay a decent wage and treat their employees better and if there were more child care options there would be no problems.  

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I currently live in a college town and there are help wanted signs everywhere. The students (major part of workforce usually) don't need more child care options and the employers know in order to retain the workers they have, they need to be treated properly. Furthermore, the employers can only pay based on the prices they can charge in order to stay in business. The population won't patronize places they deem overpriced.

[Greeneyedlady21]

Did any of the posters here who constantly stereotype, judge, and malign unemployed people receiving benefits send their stimulus checks back? Because logically perhaps you should have.

Every thread like this with the potshots.

[suzyQ3]

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@Anonymous032819 wrote:

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@Pook wrote:

I haven't noticed any shortages.  If employers would pay a decent wage and treat their employees better and if there were more child care options there would be no problems.  

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@Pook 

Exactly.

The mantra of, "People would rather be in unemployment than work, because they are lazy do-nothing bums" is old.

Fact is, if they could, they would prefer that unemployment didn't exist at all for anybody.

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I suppose that you don't believe in the old "Welfare Queen" mantra either, @Anonymous032819 

[NYCLatinaMe]

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@Kachina624 wrote:

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@Anonymous032819 wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

People are not going to work when they get paid to stay home.  How hard is that to understand?  

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If employers paid a wage that people could actually live off of, the workers would return.

It's a no brainer that with the rising cost of everything, making $12/hr just isn't going to cut it when you have rent/mortgage to pay, + utilities + other bills.

If one takes home 2k a month working at a job they may not like vs getting more on unemployment, it's a no-brainer.

You go where the money is, where you can actually cover your bills.

Also, more people are going back to school to update their skills, so it isn't just "bums on unemployment not wanting to work".

Add to that, people aren't interested in working minimum wage jobs.

They deserve to be paid a living wage, and not paid pennies, while the CEO's make millions/billions.

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@Anonymous032819   I disagree with your theory.  Employees should be paid a wage commensurate with skills, knowledge and ability, not their desired standard of living or their ability to produce children.  If you pay them a nice, fat salary for performing unskilled labor, you remove all incentive to get training or education which will improve their employability and value to the labor force.  IMO for instance, no 17 year old high school kid working at McDonald's is worth $15/hr.  Why should he or she put forth the effort to go to that community College when now earning enough to maintain and pay for that beloved car?  Times passes, he gets married, has a couple kids and because he must work overtime to support a family, he's unable to get any formal training to prepare him for a career.  Stuck in dead-end job.  Happens all the time. 

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@Kachina624 Your theory of wages does not reflect what is happening in the real world.  

Not every one is cut out to go to college, and poverty wages do not incentivize these "unskilled" workers to get a college degree.  We NEED people to perform that "unskilled" work, so that those of us with higher degrees are freed from having to do our unskilled tasks and do our higher degreed work.  

Also, many who get college degrees are unable to get higher paying jobs.  

Lower wage workers whether "unskilled" or with marginal college degrees now earn in todays dollars a lot less than they used to earn when you started working, as reflected in the chart below.  Employers then were not as committed to squeezing labor as they are now.

CEO pay grabs a larger share of wages.  They make 296 times what a typical worker earns, it was only 20 times more in the 1960s.

"Unskilled" labor should be paid a living wage, not a poverty wage.  

[Greeneyedlady21]

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@Pook wrote:

I haven't noticed any shortages.  If employers would pay a decent wage and treat their employees better and if there were more child care options there would be no problems.  Service industry jobs are very demanding an d should receive pay accordingly.  I have noticed in my area that those employers who have treated their employees really good have no shortage of workers and many that are known for treating their employees poorly have a worker shortage or have had to close down.

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I read today about a Burger King with no functioning air conditioning in the kitchen. Some employees working 60 hours a week in those conditions.

They all quit and put that announcement on the Burger King sign. Of course they were ordered by management to take it down.

[ThinkingOutLoud]

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@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:

Did any of the posters here who constantly stereotype, judge, and malign unemployed people receiving benefits send their stimulus checks back? Because logically perhaps you should have.

Every thread like this with the potshots.

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I gave mine to someone who works hard for the money but I knew could use it and would spend it wisely.

[jannabelle1]

I shopped today at my local grocer, and as usual found everything I needed, except for my cats favorite flavor of wet cat food. The cat food section in general was a bit sparse, and I chalk that up to deliveries. What concerned me more is the increasing cost of food items in the past year, especially the last 4 to 6 months. I've tracked it, and I'm now spending anywhere from 25% to 35% more than I did at the beginning of the year. Thankfully DH and I are retired, so our gasoline expenses are minimal.

I plan to do a little more shopping at Aldi's going forward and maybe WM (although I'm not at all fond of that store). I'd rather support my local grocer.

[Anonymous032819]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Anonymous032819 wrote:

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@Pook wrote:

I haven't noticed any shortages.  If employers would pay a decent wage and treat their employees better and if there were more child care options there would be no problems.  

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@Pook 

Exactly.

The mantra of, "People would rather be in unemployment than work, because they are lazy do-nothing bums" is old.

Fact is, if they could, they would prefer that unemployment didn't exist at all for anybody.

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I suppose that you don't believe in the old "Welfare Queen" mantra either, @Anonymous032819 

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So therefore everybody is "abusing" it, and nobody deserves it. Everybody is a user?

Wow. Way to paint with a very broad brush.

[ThinkingOutLoud]

I just wish more people understood that all the government 'benefits' are really a trap.

[Kachina624]

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@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:

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@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:

Did any of the posters here who constantly stereotype, judge, and malign unemployed people receiving benefits send their stimulus checks back? Because logically perhaps you should have.

Every thread like this with the potshots.

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I gave mine to someone who works hard for the money but I knew could use it and would spend it wisely.

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@ThinkingOutLoud   I think it's lovely that you're so affluent that you can afford to give money away, but why is it necessary to advertise your generosity on a public forum?