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11-26-2015 11:01 PM - edited 11-26-2015 11:02 PM
it's a skill i learned in nursing school. i think common sense is nature - you have it or you don't but logic and organized thinking can be taught and learned.
11-27-2015 09:22 AM
@Drythe wrote:
@onewhiteSparrow wrote:
@Drythe wrote:@onewhiteSparrow wrote:
School systems teach how to memorize. Not a process of logical discovery and thoughtful exploration.
They create clones of information....even if that information has long been proven wrong ...such as history...they keep telling the students to memorize the book.
No wonder most find it hard to think for their self and that allows them to be lead around...only to follow others....or join groups that again think for them.
When a person thinks for their self....starts talking about another idea all the clones jump them to shut them down.The information online some web sites were created for disinformation to confuse others, or to twist a story to help some to believe a lie is the truth.
Truth went out the door ...and it will never get better.
The masses were not taught to think and use logic.
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Your view is obviously based on your own experience. I was taught / expected to review the facts and come to an independent conclusion, which could be backed with reason. This was true in both my home and in school. If you were not, that is a loss for you, but it means that sadly, you don't have the experience to judge the experiences of others.
I admit that I am not privileged to know the "masses", but I do know many, many people who do know how to think for themselves, use logic, reason, and expect those with whom the interact by choice to do the same. It is sad if you don't have such people in your life, but that doesn't mean truth is lost.
Love this question, as a real believer in reason, and logic. An unspported, unreasoned 'view' is as bad to me than an out-right lie.
I think many of us gravitate to logical thinking by nature, but as I was taught it as a child, I'm not a good judge. Wish I knew a way to encourage / educate more people to review facts, and consider them logically to form conclusions.
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I have always thought my own thoughts. Period.
No need for you to tell me what you think I am like, and how I think, and what kind of people I am around.
I do know the masses and the masses talked with me all the time. I wrote for over 15 years that went all around the world. They wrote me and we all exchanged ideas. I talked with all races, religions, and all kinds of humans with their ways of loving each other. Every subject was covered over the years.
Still.....I hold to the fact our school systems are creating clones that memorize.
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First of all, 'fact' and 'opinion' are not the same, and unless you attended every school, you can't know. So, respectfully your view or our schools is your opinion.
Secondly, no where did I 'tell you what you think'.
Thirdly, I don't need to say 'what you are like' or 'what you think'- your posts do that.
WWS is someone I have noticed here that has a hard time separating the difference between her opinion and actual facts. There is a lot of that on this board.
11-27-2015 01:00 PM
I think often logic has nothing to do with it. Winning the argument is what counts and whatever it takes to do that - demonizing the other person, using emotion, even making up "facts" - particularly revising history to advantage - is all considered "fair."
And the audience believes what it wants to - not what logic would dictate.
11-09-2016 07:28 AM
BOTH.
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