I just don't get it - Page 6

justmyopinion · ‎11-23-2015

It's fascinating watching a jury trial and listening to the defense present their "facts" (along with expert witnesses and evidence to support their facts) and the prosecution present their "facts" with different witnesses and evidence proving their "facts" are correct.

PamfromCT · ‎05-22-2014

@LilacTree wrote:
[PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A "RELIGIOUS" POST.]

Coincidentally, I received a newsfeed on my FB this morning with a "new" drawing of what Jesus really looked like. Actually there were two drawings shown, both a huge departure of how he is portrayed in all Christian paintings created centuries after his death.

IMO, the "facts" are that we have no idea what he really looked like, we can only go by his place of birth, the ethnicity of his mother (and/or father), and the descriptions of him written in the Bible, wherein it was said he was not good looking. There was no skeleton, no DNA, no drawings of him at the time he existed.

Yet we picture him as a tall, beautiful white man with flowing locks and blue eyes, very Celtic, which could not be factual. And, as this article points out, Mary could not have been a fair-skinned blonde. These paintings were drawn in the artists' image, not as they most likely really were.

My point is . . . facts do change as time passes and we learn more.

You have brought up a good point about the appearance of Jesus. Through many excavations it has determined what people in that era looked like. It seems Jesus was likely dark, with brown eyes, and dark hair. And perhaps kinky hair. If people don't believe this, ask how many blue-eyed blondes have ever been born in that area of the world. I think this was a perception that began so many years ago because European artists of a later era could relate to a Christ who looked like them. Earlier depictions I have seen in museums don't seem to show a blonde Jesus.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@PamfromCT wrote:

@LilacTree wrote:
[PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A "RELIGIOUS" POST.]

Coincidentally, I received a newsfeed on my FB this morning with a "new" drawing of what Jesus really looked like. Actually there were two drawings shown, both a huge departure of how he is portrayed in all Christian paintings created centuries after his death.

IMO, the "facts" are that we have no idea what he really looked like, we can only go by his place of birth, the ethnicity of his mother (and/or father), and the descriptions of him written in the Bible, wherein it was said he was not good looking. There was no skeleton, no DNA, no drawings of him at the time he existed.

Yet we picture him as a tall, beautiful white man with flowing locks and blue eyes, very Celtic, which could not be factual. And, as this article points out, Mary could not have been a fair-skinned blonde. These paintings were drawn in the artists' image, not as they most likely really were.

My point is . . . facts do change as time passes and we learn more.
You have brought up a good point about the appearance of Jesus. Through many excavations it has determined what people in that era looked like. It seems Jesus was likely dark, with brown eyes, and dark hair. And perhaps kinky hair. If people don't believe this, ask how many blue-eyed blondes have ever been born in that area of the world. I think this was a perception that began so many years ago because European artists of a later era could relate to a Christ who looked like them. Earlier depictions I have seen in museums don't seem to show a blonde Jesus.

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Also, Celts are not known for being blonde and blue eyed. That is more of a description of Nordic people.

Those of us who are Celtic usually have darker hair, sometimes red hair, and brown eyes.

Jesus would have stood out like a sore thumb if he had been blonde and blue eyed.

goldensrbest · ‎03-10-2010

@Lila Belle wrote:
I've wondered about this since I've started reading and posting on this forum.

A question for factual information is asked and answered. But posts keep coming giving incorrect responses or just somebody's opinion of what the anwer should be.

What's up with that ?

I got to say ,i find this frustrating, people even post facts, you go and check on what they post ,and sometimes it is not true.

When you lose some one you L~O~V~E, that Memory of them, becomes a TREASURE.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@goldensrbest wrote:
@Lila Belle wrote:
I've wondered about this since I've started reading and posting on this forum.

A question for factual information is asked and answered. But posts keep coming giving incorrect responses or just somebody's opinion of what the anwer should be.

What's up with that ?
I got to say ,i find this frustrating, people even post facts, you go and check on what they post ,and sometimes it is not true.

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Some people post what they THINK are facts. Usually taken from an unreliable source. That doesn't mean they really are facts.

nun ya · ‎03-09-2010

@Winkk wrote:
To be honest I don't come here for facts. If it's an important subject I would not rely on this forum for accurate informaiton even though there are a lot of smart and well informed ladies here.

I come here to get other people's opinions on things and just to see what's going on. This forum (for me) is recreational only.

agree. If I want to know I will google it

esmeraldagooch · ‎03-10-2010

@sfnative wrote:
@biancardi wrote:
@esmeraldagooch wrote:
Speaking of truth and is it really truth?
The media slants things to look the way they want them portrayed. Sometimes even editing video to change what a person says. Happened this month to a candidate, the station has yet to admit it and apologize. Comedy channels also are changing what you may think is the truth by creating skits mocking people. These comedian's are shown in costume acting as the person they are mimicking. If you view these clips over and over ,many times people believe the real person has said them.

Who really said " I can see Russia from my house? Sarah or Tina.
oh please, every one knows that was Tina Fey. No one thinks that Sarah said that - however, most sane people can BELIEVE that it sounds like something Sarah would say, that is why it was so funny. Sarah has a ton of things that she has said that were more absurd that what Tina wrote.

Sarah is comedy GOLD. Just like The Donald.
@biancardi

No. Just like the hil-ary.

Tuesday’s World News with Charles Gibson showed clips of an interview between Barbara Walters and Sarah Palin which will air on Friday’s 20/20. At one point, Walters seemed to allude to the fact that there is a misconception that Palin once claimed that “I can see Russia from my house,” during the 2008 campaign, as evidence of her foreign policy experience. But Walters did not clearly identify those words as part of the famous Saturday Night Live skit as they were uttered by Tina Fey playing Palin to parody what the Alaska governor had actually said in an interview with Gibson from September 2008. Walters:

On the business of “I can see Russia from my backyard,” what you did say to Charlie Gibson was that there were places in Alaska where one could see Russia. Do you still feel that Alaska’s proximity to Russia from whatever place you can see it, is significant foreign policy experience?

As Gibson and Palin discussed the conflict between Russia and Georgia, Gibson had asked last year, "What insight into Russian actions particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of this state give you?"

Palin responded: "They're our next door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."

The clip on Tuesday which showed Walters bringing up this issue could have been more direct in stating clearly to viewers that the real Palin never stated that “I can see Russia from my house,” or as Walters misquoted the SNL line, “I can see Russia from my backyard.” There is evidence that many voters attribute the SNL line to the real Palin, so it would have been appropriate for the former 20/20 anchor to have said something along the lines of, “Because of the infamous SNL skit, there is a misconception that you once claimed that you had foreign policy experience because could see Russia from your house."

Conservative filmmaker John Ziegler has previously demonstrated that some voters mistakenly believe that Palin actually said the words from the Saturday Night Live skit, as shown by his interviews with some Obama voters last year - See more at: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2009/11/18/abc-brings-i-can-see-russia-my-backyard-pa...

justmyopinion · ‎11-23-2015

If you "google" there are all kinds of people (conspiracy theorists) on websites who claim they've been abducted by aliens and have seen UFO's, others claim that WTC was an inside job created by GWB and they have the photos to "prove" it... and others believe that Sandy Hook never happened. They have all kinds of evidence "proving" their facts. Other on religious websites claim they have received miracle healings and have seen Heaven. Some say the Jesus was born of a virgin and other argue that there is no proof of that.

You can argue with some 'til you're blue in the face and they will show you evidence to support their truth and facts.

MyGirlsMom · ‎03-09-2010

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O/T btw and an fyi regarding a previous thread/post...it's usually a good idea to read the complete post before responding incorrectly. The key word being, usually as opposed to always.

Have a nice day @CrazyDaisy

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