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Kachina624 · ‎03-10-2010

Years ago my DH and I rented pasture and barn space north of Houston for our horses. There was a problem with feral hogs coming out of the woods at night to forage grain the horses spilled. They are dangerous and will charge a person.

DH and the owner one night shot one of the hogs and we decided to have it butchered. That was the nastiest tasting meat I've ever experienced. We ended up trashing the whole hog.

I always think of that whenever someone mentions feral hogs. Eating them is definitely not an option.

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SydneyH · ‎03-10-2010

@stevieb wrote:
"Accomplishments..." Really?

Yes.......really. Every hunter I know is very proud of their work, you don't have to agree with it nor does anyone get to insist they stop taking or posting their photos.

novamc1 · ‎07-02-2015

Below is an excerpt from one of several stories that have appeared in the Wash Post newspaper over the past couple of years about a program of deer doe sterilization run by one small jurisdiction in our area. Note the small number of deer who were sterilized, note the cost per deer for veterinary and police participation, and then consider that I alone see THAT many deer in my yard in ONE WEEK, while the bragging about sterilizing deer involves a pitifully small number.

$1,000 per deer to sterilize a population that is totally out of control? Who is going to keep paying for that at a level that would actually make a big difference in a large metropolitan area, not a small city jurisdiction such as Fairfax City?

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The initial phase of Virginia’s first experiment with sterilizing deer, rather than killing them, has ended in Fairfax City. Anthony DeNicola of White Buffalo Inc., who oversaw the program and captured the deer, said 18 were spayed in six nights earlier this month. The plan is for DeNicola and his team of volunteers to return annually to spay the does and monitor the population size, in hopes that it gradually decreases by “natural” causes — hit by cars, killed by hunters, disease, old age — and avoids the need for lethal force in a densely populated city which measures only six square miles.

DeNicola said he had not yet devised a new estimate of the deer population of Fairfax City, which he previously placed at 50 to 75, pending further checks of cameras he placed in the woods and other data gathered. The program costs about $1,000 per sterilization, which is being paid for the first two years by Wildlife Rescue of Maryland. Fairfax City police did assign three officers per night to work overtime, both to assist DeNicola and ensure that no citizens were in harm’s way. Police Chief Rick Rappoport said the cost to taxpayers for the overtime was about $7,850.

The program involves shooting the deer with tranquilizer darts, each equipped with a tracking device. DeNicola and a volunteer or two hauled the deer back to Fairfax City police headquarters, where a surgical center was set up in the sallyport and two veterinarians performed an ovariectomy. The deer was tagged with a number and a neck collar. DeNicola and the volunteer then hauled the deer back where they found her, injected her with a drug to reverse the effects of some of the tranquilizers, and released her >>

debic · ‎09-02-2010

@Kachina624 wrote:
Years ago my DH and I rented pasture and barn space north of Houston for our horses. There was a problem with feral hogs coming out of the woods at night to forage grain the horses spilled. They are dangerous and will charge a person.

DH and the owner one night shot one of the hogs and we decided to have it butchered. That was the nastiest tasting meat I've ever experienced. We ended up trashing the whole hog.

I always think of that whenever someone mentions feral hogs. Eating them is definitely not an option.

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And I heard it was great.

Another place that screwed up by 'fixing overpopulation' was Hawaii. They brought in snakes and mongoose for rodent control. Again, they went for the easiest kill and ate bird eggs. I think the guy said there were no naturalized birds there now.

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*Off The Deep End~A very short trip for some!*

debic · ‎09-02-2010

@sidsmom wrote:
With hunters leaning on the 'population control' reasoning, why don't they kill cats & dogs? Or squirrels & rabbits I see everywhere? IknowIknow...'we eat what we kill'. I think those #s are really slim. And yes, there are ways to control animal population without a bullet thru the head & obligatory FB pic.

What makes you think they don't. Cats and dogs get shot, trapped and brought to kill shelters all the time. And lot's of people shoot squirrels. We eat rabbit all the time.

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*Off The Deep End~A very short trip for some!*

italia8140 · ‎10-24-2015

@stevieb wrote:
Due to our own unwillingness to control our own population, we have created every aspect of the wild animal over-population problem... We've simply left them no room... And still, short sighted and lazy, we refuse to seek reasonable and humane solutions that do exist to control both wild and domestic animal populations. Instead, despite theoretically being 'civilized', we rely on killing them.

And the notion that in 2015 people have no options but to send our big strappin' men folk out to shoot dinner is just insulting... If hunters use their catch to feed their family, I'd posit that more times than not it's unnecessary for them to do so, but is secondary to a rather revolting male bonding ritual and/or an archaic and antiquated 'rite of passage'. Rather an embarrassing commentary on how far we haven't come, really...

And we call them 'animals'...

BRAVO! EXCELLENT POST!

italia8140 · ‎10-24-2015

@SydneyH wrote:
@NevaehsMom58 wrote:
I understand the need to control the population. I just don't want to see them posing with their kill as if they're proud that they killed a living thing.
Most hunters are proud of their accomplishments, I guess you'll have to unfollow those on social media.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS? Too bad hunters are TOO COWARDLY to call what it is they do - KILLING a DEFENSELESS animal for sport. PATHETIC.

mstyrion 1 · ‎09-18-2014

@debic wrote:
@Kachina624 wrote:
Years ago my DH and I rented pasture and barn space north of Houston for our horses. There was a problem with feral hogs coming out of the woods at night to forage grain the horses spilled. They are dangerous and will charge a person.

DH and the owner one night shot one of the hogs and we decided to have it butchered. That was the nastiest tasting meat I've ever experienced. We ended up trashing the whole hog.

I always think of that whenever someone mentions feral hogs. Eating them is definitely not an option.
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And I heard it was great.

Another place that screwed up by 'fixing overpopulation' was Hawaii. They brought in snakes and mongoose for rodent control. Again, they went for the easiest kill and ate bird eggs. I think the guy said there were no naturalized birds there now.

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Not correct.

There are 317 species of birds either naturalized or occurring naturally in Hawaii. I was just there in September and there are multitudes of birds. We even saw a pair of the rare NeNe birds.

There are virtually no snakes in Hawaii. They were not brought in to control rodents. It is a felony to posses or transport snakes.

There is a large mongoose population and they are considered an invasive species.

~Enough is enough~

debic · ‎09-02-2010

@mstyrion 1 wrote:
@debic wrote:
@Kachina624 wrote:
Years ago my DH and I rented pasture and barn space north of Houston for our horses. There was a problem with feral hogs coming out of the woods at night to forage grain the horses spilled. They are dangerous and will charge a person.

DH and the owner one night shot one of the hogs and we decided to have it butchered. That was the nastiest tasting meat I've ever experienced. We ended up trashing the whole hog.

I always think of that whenever someone mentions feral hogs. Eating them is definitely not an option.
...

And I heard it was great.

Another place that screwed up by 'fixing overpopulation' was Hawaii. They brought in snakes and mongoose for rodent control. Again, they went for the easiest kill and ate bird eggs. I think the guy said there were no naturalized birds there now.
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Not correct.
There are 317 species of birds either naturalized or occurring naturally in Hawaii. I was just there in September and there are multitudes of birds. We even saw a pair of the rare NeNe birds.

There are virtually no snakes in Hawaii. They were not brought in to control rodents. It is a felony to posses or transport snakes.

There is a large mongoose population and they are considered an invasive species.