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11-07-2015 01:05 PM
@debic wrote:
@mstyrion 1 wrote:It's sad that the deer over-population problem is a completely man-made problem.
We've destroyed or driven out the predators who kept prey animal populations under control.
I suspect those states, like PA and W VA mentioned here, have no or few natural predators left.
I would love to see more natural controls of deer populations put into place. We've messed up the food chain. We should fix what we've broken.
LOL, have you ever been anywhere where they've reintroduced wolves? They go for easiest kills, deer are not it. Cattle, sheep, dogs are. It's not really a fixable thing short of humans stop breeding or leaving the planet.
I believe wild meat is better than 'farmed' meat. I have a friend with MS and she said she feels better when she only eats it. Said she did a lot of research on it.
This is the problem with 'natural' fixes. It all goes back to real nature, and that would be natural predators of deer, being even more harmful to man and domestic animals than the deer they would be 'controling'.
If people and their development and population spread are the real problem, how many who believe that are doing anyting to stop our sprawl?
11-07-2015 01:20 PM
@JAXS Mom wrote:Here's some info on the problem with the feral hog population in Texas.
Counties are posting and increasing bounties on feral hogs as they grub their way through fields, gardens, even lawns, pressing their search for food closer to urban areas and carrying disease and parasites with them.
Hays and Caldwell counties in Central Texas are offering a $5 bounty for each member of the non-native invasive species bagged by hunters, up $2 from last year, the Austin American-Statesman reported in its Saturday edition. Bastrop County is offering a $5 bounty for the first time.
Texas has the nation's largest feral hog population, with nearly 2.6 million pigs counted in June. Experts blame the animals for about $500 million in statewide damage, including $52 million a year to agriculture and hundreds of millions in torn up lawns, gardens, golf courses and buried cables and Internet lines.
And they are such prolific breeders that their population continues to build by about 20 percent annually, despite hunters taking about 750,000 from the population each year. So if reducing their numbers is an exercise in futility, the best that can be hoped for is to clear areas through maintenance hunts, Ortiz said.
Yes, wild boars are a pestulence on the land. Not only that, but they are mean.
I recently saw a program on either History, or Discovery, where they talked about invasive species, and what people are trying to do to control the population of various invasive plant/animals.
They mentioned the wild boars, and if I recall correctly, a small group of scientists, are studying the effects of poisoning their food.
They have a control group of wild boars, enclosed in a large (at least an acre) area.
They put the tainted pellets in a trough that has a lid on it.
The lid only opens when the sounds of wild boar is near, so that other animals can't get to the food.
I wonder if they have looked in to sterilization of the males?
I would think that a team could tranquillize a male boar, then when it's out, neuter it.
It's going to take a combination of things to control the wild boar population.
11-07-2015 01:29 PM
I don't even want to think what would be involved in trying to sterlize hundreds of thousands feral hogs.
Louisiana also has a huge problem with nutria, another non native species that is ravaging the coastal wetlands and damaging the levees. They also have a bounty on them. One nutria can have 13 babies at a time and breed 3x a year.
11-07-2015 01:34 PM - edited 11-07-2015 01:43 PM
@CAMOGIRL wrote:My husband is an avid deer hunter. So, I have no problem with hunting.
They need to be culled out because their population is growing all the time. There are limits on how many you can kill for the season. And, they are still populating like crazy.
We have plenty of deer roaming freely in my neighborhood. People feed them. I feed them. Am I going to go hunting? - probably not. But, hunting serves a purpose - they need to keep the deer population down so they can survive.
it also serves another purpose - if you don't want to eat deer meat, there are plenty of shelters and such that will gladly take it after it is processed.
And, I don't want anyone to be offended. Hunting is not for everyone.
Well said. Honestly the images of the deer and moose and mangled vehicles in my area I find more disturbing than anything else. I had a deer jump in front of my car last month......
11-07-2015 01:35 PM
I understand the need to control the population. I just don't want to see them posing with their kill as if they're proud that they killed a living thing.
11-07-2015 01:36 PM
@JAXS Mom wrote:I don't even want to think what would be involved in trying to sterlize hundreds of thousands feral hogs.
Louisiana also has a huge problem with nutria, another non native species that is ravaging the coastal wetlands and damaging the levees. They also have a bounty on them. One nutria can have 13 babies at a time and breed 3x a year.
Are nutria those critters that look like beavers?
Can their pelts be used for coats and what-not?
11-07-2015 01:37 PM - edited 11-07-2015 10:14 PM
@Puzzle Piece wrote:
@Kachina624 wrote:I hate this time of year because the overly-sympathetic come out of tthe woodwork bemoaning but refusing to understand that the deer population must be culled so they don't all starve. We simply cannot have unchecked populations of deer eating crops and menacing our highways. I love to see them too as they're beautiful but they can rapidly get out of hand. There simply is not enough space or forage for all of them.
There's another way to look at this. Maybe it's the growing populace of people that are taking up the spaces. Maybe population zero growth would help.
AMEN to this but it is so unPC to even remotely IMPLY perhaps humans should stop procreating to the degree we are, especially amongst certain religions. Our population is growing at such an alarming rate that there is no possible way our planet can sustain it. But humans will learn this the hard way...
11-07-2015 01:40 PM
Yes, they have tails kind of like rats though and are around 10 lbs, and furry. When I lived in Louisiana it was big problem and I'm sure it still is. You can use the pelts for fur but even so they breed so fast that they can't get the population under control.
11-07-2015 01:40 PM
@SydneyH wrote:
@CAMOGIRL wrote:My husband is an avid deer hunter. So, I have no problem with hunting.
They need to be culled out because their population is growing all the time. There are limits on how many you can kill for the season. And, they are still populating like crazy.
We have plenty of deer roaming freely in my neighborhood. People feed them. I feed them. Am I going to go hunting? - probably not. But, hunting serves a purpose - they need to keep the deer population down so they can survive.
it also serves another purpose - if you don't want to eat deer meat, there are plenty of shelters and such that will gladly take it after it is processed.
And, I don't want anyone to be offended. Hunting is not for everyone.
Well said. Honestly the images of the deer and moose and mangled vehicles in my area I find more disturbing than anything else. I had a deer jump in from of my car last month......
I hear ya.
One morning, a few years ago, I was on my way in to work, at o'dark-thirty.
Just before I got to my exit, here came four deer, crossing the two lane (in each direction) highway, going from my left, to my right.
I knew better than to swerve, (I was going below the speed limit. I was doing 60mph), but I did slam on my breaks.
I thought for sure that I was going to hit the hind quarters of the last deer in line, but luckily, it got out of the way in time.
11-07-2015 01:42 PM
@NevaehsMom58 wrote:I understand the need to control the population. I just don't want to see them posing with their kill as if they're proud that they killed a living thing.
Most hunters are proud of their accomplishments, I guess you'll have to unfollow those on social media.
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