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12-31-2015 08:09 PM
Such thoughtful sweet caring supportive comments.
I am proud you stood up to the jerk,it is a first step,he cannot hurt you anymore.
12-31-2015 08:38 PM
Hello everyone, OP here. I had to take some time to calm myself before I could come back and read your replies. I was overcome by the stories some of you have shared here, and the wonderful suggestions and support you have offered me. My family issues aside, the thing I came away with the most from reading your replies was this... If anyone has any doubt that there are lots of warm, sensitive, thoughtful, bright, and caring people left in the world, they should come to this thread and read all of your responses. Wow, really, I'm overwhelmed with emotion and appreciation. And seeing some of your familiar "faces" and knowing many of you the way I do, I can't even begin to express my gratitude. To those who posted about facing similar issues or other trying times in their lives right now, sending you BIG hugs. Thank you all for taking the time (especially on New Year's Eve!) to post and send me some much needed hearts.
With regard to some posters' questions...
My father used to be very abusive to my mother - mostly verbal (terribly so) and sometimes physical (hair pulling, slapping, throwing things). And although he has still been verbally abusive in the more recent past to my mother, the physical stuff stopped years ago. Now that she's sick, I will admit that even the verbal abuse towards my mother has stopped, thank goodness. My mother getting well is the main priority in all of our lives. And I know my father cares DEEPLY for her... and she for him. She would never, ever, ever leave my father. Ever. Since she's been sick, we have all tried desperately to not engage my father's BS for her sake. We've been successful some times and other times not. Clearly this was a explosion of pent up frustration and rage waiting to happen. We have all been at war with him at one time or another, and we all have the same feelings toward him (disgust) and toward each other (we're very, very close). Somehow, miraculously, and in spite of him, we've all managed to become well-rounded, (usually) stable individuals.
My father's relationship with his children is a different story. He was far more physically abusive with us, and his verbal assaults are never ending. We often hated my father and resented my mother for allowing him to treat us in that manner. Slowly, we came to forgive my mother for this because, really, in many respects, I don't think she was capable of handling it any other way.
One poster asked whether my father had any good aspects or redeeming qualities... absolutely. He can be wonderfully funny and, yes, loving. There are moments of clarity and contrition, but it never lasts. And, again, I think most abusers have this dual personality. It's what keeps people in their grasp. Another poster mentioned self-loathing. I do believe that plays a part in my father's anger, definitely.
I'm not exactly certain where to go from here right now. Severing all ties with my father, though tempting, just isn't feasible at the moment with my mother being sick. There is also a family business in which we've all invested our livelihoods and futures. So, yes, money is a consideration. And it's a big one. That's another reason I feel so trapped and duped and ineffectual. On more than one occasion, I've seriously considered driving away and never coming back. And to h*ll with all of the money I've worked so hard for. It's either a really smart move that I've managed to resist doing that, or a really stupid one.
I'll wrap this up by saying, again, thank you all for your encouraging and deeply moving words. How lucky we all our to have this place to come to share these sorts of experiences, the good and the bad. Sometimes it helps to step away from our personal lives and seek out totally unbiased opinions and support. It certainly helped me immensely today.
Hugs to everyone.
12-31-2015 08:43 PM
@LucyInTheSky...God bless you. I hope things eventually work out for you and that you can find some peace.
12-31-2015 08:50 PM
I echo your sentiments completely... and thank you. You made me smile (and giggle... no "mortal strangers" here!). ![]()
12-31-2015 08:53 PM
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12-31-2015 08:57 PM
lucyinthesky, most of us have our own family dramas and problems, so we totally understand and support you. vent all you want. soemtimes we just need someone to listen and not necessarily give advise or make a comment. I'm so sorry that you've been going through this for years. my heart breaks for you. I will keep on saying a prayer for you. God is in the business of miracles, so though it may be impossible for you to think that things can change, let's put your dad in His hands and let Him take charge. know that we'll always be here to lend an ear. sending you a big hug. I hope you feel it.
12-31-2015 09:01 PM - edited 12-31-2015 09:04 PM
@LucyInTheSky said:
I'm not exactly certain where to go from here right now. Severing all ties with my father, though tempting, just isn't feasible at the moment with my mother being sick. There is also a family business in which we've all invested our livelihoods and futures. So, yes, money is a consideration. And it's a big one. That's another reason I feel so trapped and duped and ineffectual. On more than one occasion, I've seriously considered driving away and never coming back. And to h*ll with all of the money I've worked so hard for. It's either a really smart move that I've managed to resist doing that, or a really stupid one.
Today was the day that was right for you to unload. I't was not planned it was just the right time so it happened. Someday, and you should not dwell on when or should I or shouldn't I, you will just know if it is time to walk away or see things through to the end.
After what happened today there is hope that your father saw the light and things will change. Let your thoughts flow freely, trust your instincts and listen to your inner voice.
(((Hugs)))
12-31-2015 09:07 PM
@LucyInTheSky wrote:This is going to be one heck of a vent piece, so if that's not something you're interested in listening to (and I certainly don't blame you), this is your warning to head for the hills now. I don't have anyone in my personal life I feel comfortable speaking with about this right now.
My father is a horrible, detestable human being. He's abused my family for as many years as I can remember... verbally (his favorite pastime) and physically. He goes from a calm, lucid person to an unimaginable, crazed maniac in seconds. I believe that's the true mark of someone who's abusive... that push and pull, that bait and switch. I wish I could attribute his behavior to aging or even senility (he's sharp as a tack). But he's always been this way, though I believe it's worsening when it should be improving at this point in his life.
Today, I reached a breaking point and unloaded every unconscionable word I've ever wanted to say to him. I was in an uncontrollable rage. And despite the way I've (we've) been treated by him since I was a child, that type of rage is not in my nature. So you know I must have really lost it. I honestly thought it was going to come to blows. It might still. My poor mother has breast cancer and is very sick. Do you think that's curbing his deplorable, shameful behavior even in the slightest? Not one bit. He upsets my mother with the way he treats us, and then blames us for the stress that he believes has caused her cancer. He, of course, is the only source of stress that ever befell this family.
In case you're wondering, yes, I'm a long-time regular poster. But I just couldn't bear to start this thread under my real nick. For this duplicity, I apologize. But I'm embarrassed that this has become our family. I feel guilt, anger, self-hatred, confusion, unbearable anxiety. I never imagined in my worst nightmare that this is how we would all end up, as time continues to slip away. How heartbreaking!
My dear, fellow posters... I need your support. What a way to start the new year...
for your own health.........you need to drop him like a hot rock
no one is going to change him, lord knows your mom has paid that price and he still treats her badly, she also needs to drop him like a hot rock, he will be the death of her
you are born into a group of people who are your relatives......but you can pick your FAMILY, your mom, your siblings, all the people who nuture and support each other..........he doesn't fit that job description...............................raven
side bar...........there was once a poster by the nick lucyinthesky........only reason I remember is because when ever I saw her nick I thought "with diamonds."
12-31-2015 09:10 PM
@LucyInTheSky ... Hugs to you! Trust your intincts and please keep posting. This is a nice thread and just goes to show how we can all come together. This thread probably helped quite a few people... including myself.
Cheers to @LucyInTheSky and everyone here. I hope the New Year brings a bright, positive future for all!![]()
12-31-2015 09:11 PM
I say...good you unloaded on him. Sounds like he has had this and more coming. Your poor Mother stuck with his cruelty for so long as well as all you guys. I too would want my mother out of that situation. Go ahead and vent here...many of us will understand.
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