Hungry Planet: What the World Eats - Page 4

itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

It is not too high when you count a family of FOUR.

*Call Tyrone*

itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

@Lucky Charm wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
@Lucky Charm wrote:
Well for $342 a week spent on groceries, the American family made some pretty darn bad choices for food.

That is not poverty level at any means. Just bad food choices.
@Lucky Charm yes the food choices are bad. However, we don't know their yearly household income for a family of four to say they are not at poverty level. You nor I would have no way of knowing if their income threshold is below $24,600 for a family of four. That amount is the poverty threshold for a family of four in 2017.
If they are at poverty level, they are spending over 71% of their income on poor food choices.

Look at all that soda, juice, chips, a lot of take-out. Look closely.

Hardly anything in all that is good for you. That's close to $300 worth of poor nutrition.

I can only hope that since they were part of this project, they can walk away knowing they need to turn the ship around.

It's not expensive or labor intensive to make healthy meals for $342/week for a family of 4.

Not hard at all.

You'd have to understand why poor people shop the way they do. You don't understand so you can only speak to what you understand. Wonder why it is then that one of the states with the highest group of poor people also have high rates obese people? The state that I refer to is Mississippi.

There is a lot involved in terms of socio economics and region.

Did you know that Urban areas that have a large concentration of minorities have a higher proportion of take out food (fast food) restaurants than other communities? It's true. Do you wonder why?

If we are going to discuss health and eating we must look at all facets that play a role in choices made. That includes availability of fresh food; ability to purchase said fresh food; replenishing fresh food regularly and more. This whole are is a study unto itself.

There is a lot to think about here. Pictures don't tell it all.

*Call Tyrone*

itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352827315000142 (Australia)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3482049/ (relevant to the US)

http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork.org/brief/why-poverty-leads-obesity-and-life-long-problems

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/02/fast-food-takeaway-shops-grow-more-rapidly-in-depriv... (UK)

*Call Tyrone*

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@itiswhatitis wrote:
@Lucky Charm wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
@Lucky Charm wrote:
Well for $342 a week spent on groceries, the American family made some pretty darn bad choices for food.

That is not poverty level at any means. Just bad food choices.
@Lucky Charm yes the food choices are bad. However, we don't know their yearly household income for a family of four to say they are not at poverty level. You nor I would have no way of knowing if their income threshold is below $24,600 for a family of four. That amount is the poverty threshold for a family of four in 2017.
If they are at poverty level, they are spending over 71% of their income on poor food choices.

Look at all that soda, juice, chips, a lot of take-out. Look closely.

Hardly anything in all that is good for you. That's close to $300 worth of poor nutrition.

I can only hope that since they were part of this project, they can walk away knowing they need to turn the ship around.

It's not expensive or labor intensive to make healthy meals for $342/week for a family of 4.

Not hard at all.

You'd have to understand why poor people shop the way they do. You don't understand so you can only speak to what you understand. Wonder why it is then that one of the states with the highest group of poor people also have high rates obese people? The state that I refer to is Mississippi.

There is a lot involved in terms of socio economics and region.

Did you know that Urban areas that have a large concentration of minorities have a higher proportion of take out food (fast food) restaurants than other communities? It's true. Do you wonder why?

If we are going to discuss health and eating we must look at all facets that play a role in choices made. That includes availability of fresh food; ability to purchase said fresh food; replenishing fresh food regularly and more. This whole are is a study unto itself.

There is a lot to think about here. Pictures don't tell it all.

If a community has more fast food places than other communities, it means that a greater proportion of that community buys the fast food. Economics tell you that. Fast food locates where fast food sells most.

I grew up in a very poor area and people ate beans, cornbread and beans for a heck of a lot of meals. That's cheaper and healthier than fast food. People make choices about how they spend time and money, and a lot of that is up to us as consumers. I'm not saying that because I make great choices. I'm just stating a fact.

Food was a big deal where I grew up, and almost everyone gardened and also hunted and fished and NOT for the sport of it. There was no throwing back of fish around there! They were breaded and fried! NOT the best choice but BOY were they good!

Hunger is a terrible thing, but not always are bad choices about money.

itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

@Sooner wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
@Lucky Charm wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
@Lucky Charm wrote:
Well for $342 a week spent on groceries, the American family made some pretty darn bad choices for food.

That is not poverty level at any means. Just bad food choices.
@Lucky Charm yes the food choices are bad. However, we don't know their yearly household income for a family of four to say they are not at poverty level. You nor I would have no way of knowing if their income threshold is below $24,600 for a family of four. That amount is the poverty threshold for a family of four in 2017.
If they are at poverty level, they are spending over 71% of their income on poor food choices.

Look at all that soda, juice, chips, a lot of take-out. Look closely.

Hardly anything in all that is good for you. That's close to $300 worth of poor nutrition.

I can only hope that since they were part of this project, they can walk away knowing they need to turn the ship around.

It's not expensive or labor intensive to make healthy meals for $342/week for a family of 4.

Not hard at all.

You'd have to understand why poor people shop the way they do. You don't understand so you can only speak to what you understand. Wonder why it is then that one of the states with the highest group of poor people also have high rates obese people? The state that I refer to is Mississippi.

There is a lot involved in terms of socio economics and region.

Did you know that Urban areas that have a large concentration of minorities have a higher proportion of take out food (fast food) restaurants than other communities? It's true. Do you wonder why?

If we are going to discuss health and eating we must look at all facets that play a role in choices made. That includes availability of fresh food; ability to purchase said fresh food; replenishing fresh food regularly and more. This whole are is a study unto itself.

There is a lot to think about here. Pictures don't tell it all.
If a community has more fast food places than other communities, it means that a greater proportion of that community buys the fast food. Economics tell you that. Fast food locates where fast food sells most.

I grew up in a very poor area and people ate beans, cornbread and beans for a heck of a lot of meals. That's cheaper and healthier than fast food. People make choices about how they spend time and money, and a lot of that is up to us as consumers. I'm not saying that because I make great choices. I'm just stating a fact.

Food was a big deal where I grew up, and almost everyone gardened and also hunted and fished and NOT for the sport of it. There was no throwing back of fish around there! They were breaded and fried! NOT the best choice but BOY were they good!

Hunger is a terrible thing, but not always are bad choices about money.

@Sooner, it would seem that way, but that's not how it works. Those very same communities don't get the Supermarkets to even have OPTIONS to make these choices. I know to some it sounds like "common sense" but it's more to it than that. Much of it has nothing to do with the residents of a given community.

If we want a better understanding of what takes place here, and abroad (as I provided some links to peer reviewed articles) the place to start is by reading this from a socio economic aspect (even a little urban planning).

*Call Tyrone*

QueenDanceALot · ‎04-18-2013

For all the criticism the family from North Carolina is taking on this thread I just had to say that for all the not healthy food they've got on display they don't look to be obese or pitiful.

There are obese people in the photos of some of the families with the healthy food and the low $$ expenditure.

P.S. This post in no way suggest that eating this way is a good thing, but the NC family just doesn't look the way you might assume a family would look who eats all that stuff.

Puzzle Piece · ‎06-29-2010

In defense of the NC family, I wonder how many times the family actually has pizza. Twice a year, once a week, once a year?

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sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

@QueenDanceALot wrote:
For all the criticism the family from North Carolina is taking on this thread I just had to say that for all the not healthy food they've got on display they don't look to be obese or pitiful.

There are obese people in the photos of some of the families with the healthy food and the low $$ expenditure.

P.S. This post in no way suggest that eating this way is a good thing, but the NC family just doesn't look the way you might assume a family would look who eats all that stuff.

@QueenDanceALot

True.

That's why it's confusing to the Public when someone has a heart attack,

but 'looks healthy.' Only strengthens the fact people need to eat

the right food. Doesn't matter if you're thin/obese, if you're

cardiovascular system is compromised, you're still in bad health...

flexing at the gym & wearing skinny jeans...but you're still not healthy.

Heart Disease, diabetes, autoimmune issues, obesity doesn't happen

overnight. From the looks of the NC family, they're on that path of

bad health for those young kids.

And you don't have to be 600lb to be in bad health.

Let's all reference Bob Harper, Biggest Loser Trainer,

who had a heart attack at 51 while 'looking healthy.'

It's all about consuming the right food.

Irshgrl31201 · ‎03-18-2010

@sidsmom wrote:
@Irshgrl31201 wrote:
So much processed junk and soda in the one in America. This is so sad to me. We are literally kiling ourselves with sugar.
It's really not sugar, but....'no fiber' and/or 'high fat'.

In the US picture, there's very little all-sugar food...some juices,
but it's the processed food, which people lump into 'sugar'.

Processed food is demonized for no fiber and/or high fat,
not because of the 'sugar.' Until people see that distinction,
it will continue to get worse.

No we are killing ourselves with sugar. Sugar is the #1 reason for heart disease now in our country. Processed food is many times laden with sugar, even for savory items.

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