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Re: How those plant-based burgers emerge from the laboratory


@Porcelain wrote:

@dex wrote:


Nothing good for us in those foods.Bosies can’t process those creations and some of us will be storing it as fat.When we eat foods without any packaging or gmos and organic then we have the best fuel for our bodies and our health.I have mostly fresh food and some frozen in my home.


I think improvements in the general food supply are to the good. The fact that you even have the option to buy organic and gmo-free food and ingredients at a chain grocery store, and don't have to personally know a farmer, is an improvement.


Except that these types of growing practices should be the norm as they are in some European countries...then we could all have better food.

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I think I am always going to eat some meat or fish.I just can’t get full on plants and too many grains or beans set my tricky stomach off.I will clear cut forests with the amount of tp I would use.

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Re: How those plant-based burgers emerge from the laboratory


@dex wrote:

I think I am always going to eat some meat or fish.I just can’t get full on plants and too many grains or beans set my tricky stomach off.I will clear cut forests with the amount of tp I would use.


LMAO!!

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Re: How those plant-based burgers emerge from the laboratory


@sidsmom wrote:

Facts are facts.

The way it's presented, or more importantly how it's perceived,

does not make those facts less true.

The human body workings are pretty finite.

 


@sidsmom Yes and there are facts and studies to promote Mediterranean diets, Blue Zone, fat free, high fat, low fat, low carb, high carb, plant based, Atkins, Keto, Weight Watchers, and on and on and on.  

 

Human bodies are very much the same in many ways and very different in many ways.  


Isn't the best "diet" and "food" to nourish us respect others?  Isn't that one of the most important nutrients we all need? To share beliefs and experiences and see what we can take away?

 

Or is food the real issue on the plant based diet?  If not, shouldn't that be stated as part of the reasoning?  No one food plan has all the firm facts today.  Science just doesn't support that.  Too many of the best studies and nuances and case histories to support that to disregard it for dietary issues.  

 

 

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Re: How those plant-based burgers emerge from the laboratory

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@SoonerWhat I read about the Mediterranean diet recently was pretty interesting.  Olive oil contains plant sterols and plant sterols lowers total cholesterol and LDL but when testing was done on monkees it was discovered the oil still gave them arterial plaque.  The researchers surmised that in the region where the Mediterranean diet originated, they were deriving the benefit more from the physically demanding work it took to maintain their farms and they probably ate olives too.  That's why researchers are now saying there are no healthy oils and to stay away from all of them.  We do need some fat in our diets to absorb fat soluble vitamins but I would stay away from oil. 

 

@sidsmomwhich fats do you include in your diet?

 

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@ann1989 wrote:

@SoonerWhat I read about the Mediterranean diet recently was pretty interesting.  Olive oil contains plant sterols and plant sterols lowers total cholesterol and LDL but when testing was done on monkees it was discovered the oil still gave them arterial plaque.  The researchers surmised that in the region where the Mediterranean diet originated, they were deriving the benefit more from the physically demanding work it took to maintain their farms and they probably ate olives too.  That's why researchers are now saying there are no healthy oils and to stay away from all of them.  We do need some fat in our diets to absorb fat soluble vitamins but I would stay away from oil. 

 

@sidsmomwhich fats do you include in your diet?

 


@ann1989 Which is why I believe in a diet of great variety but everything in moderation.  New findings and studies increase our knowledge and lead us in different ways.  Think about how many food "facts" we have seen some and go in the last 30 years alone.

 

Yes, we do need fats, and carbs, and protein, and fiber and "vitamines" and minerals and water and on and on.  And there are many different sources and theories and so on and special diets--some very restrictive.

 

Eat good food, natural and organic as much as possible.  Get a variety and eat enough to satisfy but not stuff--like the Turkey!  Woman Very Happy

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Re: How those plant-based burgers emerge from the laboratory

In regard to all the "proven fact" diets...let me tell you about the tests!  They were testing a new med at USF and my Doctor knew the Doctor doing the test and recommended me to be in it.

 

When they discovered that I had had a reaction to 1 med, they would not allow me to participate in their test!  No way would they take a chance on my reacting to the one they were testing!!!!!!  

 

Take all these "proven" fact from tests with a grain of salt!  You can "test" and "prove" anything you  want to!

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Re: How those plant-based burgers emerge from the laboratory


@ann1989 wrote:

 

@sidsmomwhich fats do you include in your diet?

 


@ann1989 

Fats are in all foods...just like carbohydrate & protein.

 

The only overt fats I use is the occasional flaxseed, chia seed,

avocado, nuts & tofu. 

 

Oats, veggies...like broccoli, romaine...they all have fat. 

When one eats to calorie density, that automatically makes you

eat lower in fat....here's a good graphic to explain calorie density:

 

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Re: How those plant-based burgers emerge from the laboratory

Considering the growing number of "diet solutions" and "diet plans" being marketed (very profitably)  today, the only reasonable way to navigate among them is to eat as much whole, unnprocessed food of all types..........meat,seafood, dairy,  vegetables, oils, nuts, seeds, grains, starches, etc..............as our marketplace has to offer.

 

Seems downright dumb to me to think any one type of diet for all people is the holy grail of health attainment and maintenance.

 

  As soon as one "nutrition expert" claims title to the holy grail of perfect health, someone else or something else will throw the expert and his/her diet theory off the balcony, which  will be regarded as "good riddance", and the next new thing will come along and be published as a best-seller.

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Here's a perfect example of how faulty the food-trend-following can get:

 

As posted by @GingerPeach on another thread......

 

<<I picked up this magazine yesterday at Whole Foods, KETO, The Updated and Expanded Definitive Guide, and am glad I did.

Not only does it provide a balanced view of this way of eating, it is very upfront about the pros and cons. Also included is a page of conditions someone may have and for which keto eating is not recommended.

Conditions include:
Women trying to get pregnant
People with hypothyroidism
People with autoimmune disease
Anyone with kidney stone risk factors
Anyone with osteosporosis or osteopenia

There are several other conditions. Along with this list are many articles about various aspects of this eating plan. >>