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04-15-2025 11:42 AM
@I am still oxox wrote:
@Q-Checker wrote:@I am still oxox I should have clarified that those people hired under the old CSRS were permitted to choose to stay under that system when FERS was implemented. Your husband was not hired under the old CSRS system, so many of these posts do not apply to him. Again, if interested, more information about FERS, can be obtained online.
@Q-Checker Why do they not apply to him he collects Social Security. I am really confused what you are trying to say. Thank you
@I am still oxoxThis applies to people who for many years were not elgible for SS until a new law was passed a few years ago. There is a lot of information about this out on the internet if you google it.
04-15-2025 12:12 PM - edited 04-15-2025 02:35 PM
@I am still oxox I will try again. Your husband, under the FERS system, receives Social Security as part of his retirement package. Those under the older CSRS system (and other government-based jobs) did not receive Social Security unless they also accumulated forty quarters of eligible non-government work in a separate job. These Social Security payments based on those non-government jobs were reduced because these people were simultaneously receiving a government pension. It was called double dipping even though the government pensions and social security payments at that time were earned from different jobs. This system was finally declared to be unfair and no longer exists. Back payments for one year, for the unfairly reduced Social Security payments, were issued to those who received pensions from both Social Security and their government jobs under the old system. FERS includes Social Security retirement benefits, unlike the older CSRS and other government jobs, so this change does not affect retirees under that system. Many posters, in addition to me, have noted this. Extensive further information is available on line.
04-17-2025 12:58 AM
@I am still oxox -- I did reply and hope that the reply helped end your confusion. You can also call Social Security and, perhaps, get more information.
04-17-2025 07:20 AM
@Q-Checker wrote:@I am still oxox-- I did reply and hope that the reply helped end your confusion. You can also call Social Security and, perhaps, get more information.
@Q-Checker Thank you for taking you time to explain and now I understand why my Dad who was under the old system went back to work after he was forcibly retired from hazardous duty at age 55
04-17-2025 07:34 PM
In Santa Clara county here in CA the police retire on full pay. The last 3 years before retirement they work overtime, do night shifts, make more. At retirement 52 (it just went up to 55), They take the 3 year average which is high, 0ver 160,000. Some firemen as well. It depends on union. Sometimes more . That's what they get a year. Plus a COLA every year. They get no SS at all. Full medical for themselves.only. But all wind up doing another job, or going back to the police back door. California pays 80% of it budget to retirement budgets.
04-17-2025 09:52 PM
A friend of mine who worked in the MA court system for years just had $6000 deposited into her bank.
My mother worked for the state of MA and because she
had a state pension her SS (my father's that she was eligible to collect) was always reduced by the amount of her state pension.
Poor mom never lived to see that injustice rectified. I thought of her right away when the announcement came that congress finally righted that wrong.
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