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Re: Has Anyone Noticed Children

Very skeptical of this report. I have no proof, but it seems that they're inflating numbers again. I don't know of any children who have COVID. I haven't been trusting the numbers lately, anyway. 

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Re: Has Anyone Noticed Children

I split my time between two "hot spot" states - Michigan and Florida. No one that I know, child or adult, in either spot has tested positive for the virus, much less gotten sick from it. That includes several front-line healthcare workers. 

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What is known is the fact that the median age of those who have died from Covid is 78.  The CDC reports that 8 out of 10 Covid-19 deaths reported in the U.S. are people over 65 years old.  Older people are far more likely to die of the disease.  Also directly from the CDC website: "90% of People Hospitalized for COVID-19 Have Underlying Conditions. . According to the NCHS  among the 183K deaths there were more than 161,300 death certificates that listed Covid-19 as among the various possible causes of death as of Aug. 22.  That means only 6% of the certificates that mention Covid-19 list it as the sole cause on the death certificate. The remaining 94% were deaths that involved/included multiple other causes besides Covid-19. Which is why there is a difference in dying "from" covid than dying "with" covid.   This is important since that means underlying conditions are an important factor.  

 

It is now known that the risk is not as dramatic in children.  While the virus clearly can infect children – remember, this was something that nobody seemed entirely sure of in the earliest days of the pandemic – it is a fact that there is strong evidence it is not as deadly for the youngest among us as it is for the rest of us.  While some children and infants have been sick with COVID-19, adults make up the majority of the known cases to date. Under-18s have accounted for just two percent of hospitalized COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of all deaths in the United States,

 

It's worth emphasizing that children are more prone to severe cases of the flu,  The flu each year infects 50+ million americans with hundreds of thousands of deaths.   Covid has a 99.7% recovery rate (CDC May 2020). 1,090 children died of H1N1 from 2009-2010, and as of today no child has died solely from Covid.   Less than 2% of the population of the United States have been diagnosed with COVID-19 (and we have tested more people than any other nation in the world) of that 2% diagnosed, 3% have actually died.

 

The risk falls as the age group gets younger.  Their risk of severe symptoms let alone any symptoms is way lower than someone 65 and older.  Deaths in young people (from babies to college students) are almost non-existent. The first age group to have a noticeable percentage in the death statistics is 45-54 years,  that group shows as 5% of the deaths.   More than 80% of deaths occur in people aged 65 and over.  When you add that 5% in the total then increases to over 92%.  These statistics are easily found.   I'm not saying that someone younger will not experience issues either minor or severe, and I am not trying to minimize any of the deaths that have occurred they are all tragically sad.  Always remember of all those percentages unless you knew their medical history personally you do not know what other factors contributed to their difficult time with this virus.  Some people "appear" perfectly healthy-but they may have a condition you were completely unaware of.   And clearly if you have multiple conditions, this virus is likely to give you a harder time.  

  

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Re: Has Anyone Noticed Children

 


@PA Mom-mom wrote:

I live in SE PA and to date I do not know anyone who has contracted the virus.

 

PA Mom-mom, I also am in SE PA.  My neighbor's 71 year old mother died locally of Covid in May, and a man who works with my BIL has been out of work with Covid.  Four kids at the high school just two miles away tested positive this week.  I do not know those young folks. 

 


 

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@eadu4 wrote:

What is known is the fact that the median age of those who have died from Covid is 78.  The CDC reports that 8 out of 10 Covid-19 deaths reported in the U.S. are people over 65 years old.  Older people are far more likely to die of the disease.  Also directly from the CDC website: "90% of People Hospitalized for COVID-19 Have Underlying Conditions. . According to the NCHS  among the 183K deaths there were more than 161,300 death certificates that listed Covid-19 as among the various possible causes of death as of Aug. 22.  That means only 6% of the certificates that mention Covid-19 list it as the sole cause on the death certificate. The remaining 94% were deaths that involved/included multiple other causes besides Covid-19. Which is why there is a difference in dying "from" covid than dying "with" covid.   This is important since that means underlying conditions are an important factor.  

 

It is now known that the risk is not as dramatic in children.  While the virus clearly can infect children – remember, this was something that nobody seemed entirely sure of in the earliest days of the pandemic – it is a fact that there is strong evidence it is not as deadly for the youngest among us as it is for the rest of us.  While some children and infants have been sick with COVID-19, adults make up the majority of the known cases to date. Under-18s have accounted for just two percent of hospitalized COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of all deaths in the United States,

 

It's worth emphasizing that children are more prone to severe cases of the flu,  The flu each year infects 50+ million americans with hundreds of thousands of deaths.   Covid has a 99.7% recovery rate (CDC May 2020). 1,090 children died of H1N1 from 2009-2010, and as of today no child has died solely from Covid.   Less than 2% of the population of the United States have been diagnosed with COVID-19 (and we have tested more people than any other nation in the world) of that 2% diagnosed, 3% have actually died.

 

The risk falls as the age group gets younger.  Their risk of severe symptoms let alone any symptoms is way lower than someone 65 and older.  Deaths in young people (from babies to college students) are almost non-existent. The first age group to have a noticeable percentage in the death statistics is 45-54 years,  that group shows as 5% of the deaths.   More than 80% of deaths occur in people aged 65 and over.  When you add that 5% in the total then increases to over 92%.  These statistics are easily found.   I'm not saying that someone younger will not experience issues either minor or severe, and I am not trying to minimize any of the deaths that have occurred they are all tragically sad.  Always remember of all those percentages unless you knew their medical history personally you do not know what other factors contributed to their difficult time with this virus.  Some people "appear" perfectly healthy-but they may have a condition you were completely unaware of.   And clearly if you have multiple conditions, this virus is likely to give you a harder time.  

  


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Miranda Lambert's hometown is about 15 minutes from me.  That ISD had to close one of their Elementary schools last Wed. until the Wed. after Labor Day.  Several teachers in the school of one particular grade tested positive.  So, they closed the entire Elementary to be safe and the ISD sent them all home with Ipads for continuing learning online.

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The first person to have COVID in my county when we lived in MD was a child in Middle School; lived 3 miles from us. 

 

A few months ago, a child died from COVID in the county where we now live in Florida; first one. 

 

My state isn't doing a great job of releasing info so I don't really know the #'s. I CAN tell you that more than 50% of all children in my county did NOT return to school and chose virtual school instead.

 

 

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@FiddleDeeDee wrote:

The first person to have COVID in my county when we lived in MD was a child in Middle School; lived 3 miles from us. 

 

A few months ago, a child died from COVID in the county where we now live in Florida; first one. 

 

My state isn't doing a great job of releasing info so I don't really know the #'s. I CAN tell you that more than 50% of all children in my county did NOT return to school and chose virtual school instead.

 

 


That's a shame they are not informing you better.  Starting Sept. 8th all Texas schools will have to file WEEKLY reports showing any positive cases of Covid regarding the children or the staff.  These will be made public.

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Re: Has Anyone Noticed Children

Yes, children and youth in congregate care foster care are testing positive after exposure by caregivers.

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@beckyb1012   Google about Florida and tacking COVID rates and the entire nasty situation will come up. Can't post it here because I will be POOFED by the powers-that-be.  *rolls eyes*

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