Harvard controversy. - Page 6

hyacinth003 · ‎03-12-2010

On 5/9/2014 terrier3 said:
On 5/9/2014 wookie said: I am disgusted by satanism as I am by the Westboro group, and the KKK, but all groups mentioned are protected under the Constitution.

And the more attention they get, the more they are encouraged to act out.

I agree. Ignore it.

Hyacinth

JaneMarple · ‎05-23-2011

On 5/9/2014 aprilskies said:
On 5/9/2014 terrier3 said:
On 5/9/2014 Emma bunting said:
On 5/9/2014 Linders Back said:
Harvard is not affiliated with any Religion, so all forms of expression should be allowed. The Boston Archdiocese has enough of its own problems to worry about without getting involved in this.

So.....how would you feel if they allowed a KKK rally on the quad? Is that A-OK with everybody?

KKK isn't a religion.

...and satanism is??? Are you for real?

Look it up, it is a recognized religion.

You Don't Own Me- Leslie Gore
(You don't Know) How Glad I Am- Nancy Wilson

QueenDanceALot · ‎04-18-2013

On 5/9/2014 terrier3 said:
On 5/9/2014 Cakers1 said:
On 5/9/2014 terrier3 said:
I don't believe a baby is sacrificed at a Satanic Mass. As long as no animals are harmed (or people) it's much ado about nothing. The organizers are expecting a lot of publicity. Let's not give them any.

KKK promoted violence against human beings and their property. Not the same, IMO. In the 1920s, my grandparents owned a general store in a small village in PA. The KKK came to their house, burned a cross on the lawn, rode around on horses and left a note telling the "dirty Italians" that was their warning to get out of town or get hurt - and their kids would be killed - they were Catholics from Italy too. My grandparents moved.

See what I mean? The KKK is a different story.

No, the KKK is NOT a different story. Whether your grandparents were run off for being Italian or Catholic (most likely both), the KKK has its roots in anti-Catholicism.

These black "masses" parody the Catholic mass.

Same hate, different crew.

The KKK is anti-Catholic, anti-black, anti- everybody but what they are.

That's perfectly OK with me. But they are an organization that has a history of violence. That is the difference.

Who cares if someone parodies a Mass? I am Catholic and I don't care. It's performance art. It's protected free speech. Don't give them publicity...don't act horrified or angry... they will stop.

People get offended way too easily, IMO.

There are so many beautiful, uplifting things to concentrate on in this life - why let
about of people acting out bother you???

ITA! Let them show their ugly faces for who they are. Oh, that''s right, they won't. They hide their ugly faces behind a sheet. Cowards.

People should see these people and act accordingly. Walk away, don't give them any attention.

Lion · ‎03-09-2010

Does Satanism profess racism or bigotry toward others?

Do they target certain groups? Are their beliefs based on hatred or aggression?

How are they different from other faiths, other than the "higher power" they worship?

I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

(my edit)

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"The truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself."
- Augustine

Be Vigilent

Emma bunting · ‎04-21-2014

I find it interesting that the same ones outraged by Westboro Baptist's beliefs seem to be so tolerant of Satanists' beliefs.......and their mockery of the Catholic church.

chessylady · ‎05-01-2010

Either you support the U.S. Constitution or you don't. You can have your religious views but you can't force those views on others. That is the problem with a State religion.

Lila Belle · ‎01-24-2013

On 5/9/2014 chessylady said: Either you support the U.S. Constitution or you don't. You can have your religious views but you can't force those views on others. That is the problem with a State religion.

Exactly.

JaneMarple · ‎05-23-2011

On 5/9/2014 chessylady said: Either you support the U.S. Constitution or you don't. You can have your religious views but you can't force those views on others. That is the problem with a State religion.

You Don't Own Me- Leslie Gore
(You don't Know) How Glad I Am- Nancy Wilson

QueenDanceALot · ‎04-18-2013

On 5/9/2014 JaneMarple said:
On 5/9/2014 terrier3 said:
On 5/9/2014 Emma bunting said:
On 5/9/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 5/9/2014 JaneMarple said:
Freedom of religion and speech and all that goes with it, that's my understanding of the issue.

That's it in a nutshell. Freedom of religion means for all religions, not just those the majority likes.

The only conditions are that all follow the law. Santaria is not allowed to practice animal rituals.

So.....the Westboro Baptists should be allowed to shout slurs because of freedom of speech, then. And same thing with the KKK. Freedom of speech .....just like religion....is for all people, right? No matter how distasteful we find it. Thanks for weighing in. This is a real eye opener for me.

Westboro went to the Supreme Court and won their suit.

KKK groups have also marched in parades.

Freedom of speech means ALL speech, not just what you allow.

Don't like it? Ignore it.

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${#emotions_dlg.thumbup1}$ And if they break the law, arrest them.

We don't throw the Constitution away because we don't like something.

aprilskies · ‎03-09-2010

On 5/9/2014 JaneMarple said:
On 5/9/2014 aprilskies said:
On 5/9/2014 terrier3 said:
On 5/9/2014 Emma bunting said:
On 5/9/2014 Linders Back said:
Harvard is not affiliated with any Religion, so all forms of expression should be allowed. The Boston Archdiocese has enough of its own problems to worry about without getting involved in this.

So.....how would you feel if they allowed a KKK rally on the quad? Is that A-OK with everybody?

KKK isn't a religion.

...and satanism is??? Are you for real?

Look it up, it is a recognized religion.

I knew they were a group/cult but not a recognized religion. Wow is all I can say.