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[bonnie f]

i was heartbroken when my salon closed but they had to. been going to the same salon for about 15 yrs.. its a big salon and everytime im in there its never crowded.. there may be 5 hairdressers working and out of the 5 there may only be 3 cutting hair.. and since its so big there's plenty of space.. i can see closing for the health n safety of the hairdressers etc. but my nail salon is 10 times smaller.  that i can see. any given time you'll have at least 10 if not more in a small space.. they shouldnt even be taking walk ins.. it should be by apt only. i always make apts at  my nail place.. most just walk in and sit there for 15 min or more.. by taking apts you can cantrol how many people are in there. definetely a smart idea.. i know when they open my 1st thing is a perm and haircut.. i'll be there for at leasr 2 hrs..they will all have there work cut out for them... they will be soooo busy.. and i definetely recommend tipping well... i know i will.... definetely more than 20%  ... i miss my services and they deserve it after being closed so long.. hopefully here in pa.. they will be open by the end of may..

[Deree]

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@NYC Susan wrote:

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@germanshepherdlove wrote:

One of the barber shop owners requires masks and gloves for employees and clients and the door is locked as haircuts are done on an appointment basis.  After the client leaves, the chair is sanitized as well as scissors.  The barber shop owner said when you touch a bag of chips at the grocery store how do you know how many people touched it before you; so going to a barber shop would actually be more safe. 

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Yes, but for sure not every barber shop owner is going to be as meticulous as that one.  Especially when the regulations don't actually require much.  A lot of those barber shops are going to have customers waiting in close proximity to each other with no masks.  That's exactly what should not be happening.

And I also think being up close to someone's face is different than touching a bag of potato chips.  When I buy a bag of chips, I clean it off, wash my hands, and let it sit for a few days.  That seems a lot safer to me than being in a barber shop or beauty salon situation with close breathing and touching and other people in close proximity.

If they were going to move forward with this, they should have had regulations that actually had solid requirements rather than suggestions.

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I just need to repeat this for emphasis because it is critically important that @germanshepherdlove and others understand the difference between touching something and breathing on someone.  Anything that is touched can be washed of the virus but once you inhale the virus via close contact in a barbershop or salon you will get the virus.  Masks only protect about 40%.  If you talk to each other with masks on or breathe on someone in very close contact with a mask on you're risk of getting the virus is that much greater.

[Blahblahvampemer]

As long as the chairs and smocks are cleaned, we're fine.  I'm far more concerned about getting medical care for my dad since the hospitals are empty, and other practices are essentially closed.  

[willdob3]

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@Deree wrote:

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@NYC Susan wrote:

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@germanshepherdlove wrote:

One of the barber shop owners requires masks and gloves for employees and clients and the door is locked as haircuts are done on an appointment basis.  After the client leaves, the chair is sanitized as well as scissors.  The barber shop owner said when you touch a bag of chips at the grocery store how do you know how many people touched it before you; so going to a barber shop would actually be more safe. 

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Yes, but for sure not every barber shop owner is going to be as meticulous as that one.  Especially when the regulations don't actually require much.  A lot of those barber shops are going to have customers waiting in close proximity to each other with no masks.  That's exactly what should not be happening.

And I also think being up close to someone's face is different than touching a bag of potato chips.  When I buy a bag of chips, I clean it off, wash my hands, and let it sit for a few days.  That seems a lot safer to me than being in a barber shop or beauty salon situation with close breathing and touching and other people in close proximity.

If they were going to move forward with this, they should have had regulations that actually had solid requirements rather than suggestions.

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I just need to repeat this for emphasis because it is critically important that @germanshepherdlove and others understand the difference between touching something and breathing on someone.  Anything that is touched can be washed of the virus but once you inhale the virus via close contact in a barbershop or salon you will get the virus.  Masks only protect about 40%.  If you talk to each other with masks on or breathe on someone in very close contact with a mask on you're risk of getting the virus is that much greater.

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@Deree 

I agree. It is going to be a long time before I’m willing to be that close to anyone. They may be taking as many precautions as they can and they may feel fine, BUT this virus has proven it really doesn’t care about that. Unless you are alone in a bubble 24/7, you could have contracted the virus and not know it.

[Blahblahvampemer]

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@willdob3 wrote:

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@Deree wrote:

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@NYC Susan wrote:

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@germanshepherdlove wrote:

One of the barber shop owners requires masks and gloves for employees and clients and the door is locked as haircuts are done on an appointment basis.  After the client leaves, the chair is sanitized as well as scissors.  The barber shop owner said when you touch a bag of chips at the grocery store how do you know how many people touched it before you; so going to a barber shop would actually be more safe. 

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Yes, but for sure not every barber shop owner is going to be as meticulous as that one.  Especially when the regulations don't actually require much.  A lot of those barber shops are going to have customers waiting in close proximity to each other with no masks.  That's exactly what should not be happening.

And I also think being up close to someone's face is different than touching a bag of potato chips.  When I buy a bag of chips, I clean it off, wash my hands, and let it sit for a few days.  That seems a lot safer to me than being in a barber shop or beauty salon situation with close breathing and touching and other people in close proximity.

If they were going to move forward with this, they should have had regulations that actually had solid requirements rather than suggestions.

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I just need to repeat this for emphasis because it is critically important that @germanshepherdlove and others understand the difference between touching something and breathing on someone.  Anything that is touched can be washed of the virus but once you inhale the virus via close contact in a barbershop or salon you will get the virus.  Masks only protect about 40%.  If you talk to each other with masks on or breathe on someone in very close contact with a mask on you're risk of getting the virus is that much greater.

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@Deree 

I agree. It is going to be a long time before I’m willing to be that close to anyone. They may be taking as many precautions as they can and they may feel fine, BUT this virus has proven it really doesn’t care about that. Unless you are alone in a bubble 24/7, you could have contracted the virus and not know it.

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Something like 85% will either never know they had it, or the symptoms will be minor, and the mortality rate is far lower than initially stated.  The massive bulk of those that require treatment have at least one underlying health issue, and one study says they have at least two.  Sweden is pursuing herd immunity and not shutting down.  I'm not going to be surprised if trying to stop the virus the way we have will make the cure worse than the disease--especially since we have multiple treatments.  

[Vivian]

They can print up all the regulations they want, and follow as many regulations that they can. The bottom line is that there will likely be a spike in cases of Covid19. If haircuts, nail treatments, and tattoo & bowling experiences are worth your life,go ahead. For the rest of us, being careful and listening to the experts will be our guide.

[Porcelain]

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@NYC Susan wrote:

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@Porcelain wrote:

https://www.ajc.com/news/lines-start-early-for-haircuts-georgia-begins-open/jWJvWglc5N7RlQt1Z6oDTN/

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Why aren't they wearing masks?

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They're special. No one is going to tell them what to do.

[shoekitty]

Back in the day  I taught Cosmetology and also traveled doing platform work.  As much as you teach State Board regulations, sanitation  and disinfecting it usually never gets practiced once they get license.  Salons get rigid before inspections and if they receive citation.  Most owners try, but get over whelmed and don't always get total cooperation. I cut my own hair as after teaching and being an experiment specimen, I get panic attacks the second I sit in a salon chair.  I start barking orders, once even took scissors to cut a section as example.  Lol,  I 86'd myself from salons. I am sure everyone in But I did go to nail salon, a highly recommended one a year.ago.  I have spent the last year growing my nails out after nail beds were buffed to close to cuticle, my nails were bumpy, split   I got fungus in one foot  week after pedicure.  They get sterile instruments, but the dust from nails is everywhere. And they reuse files.   I pity the lungs of those young girls.  They are suppose to have proper ventilation, an open door is not proper ventilation.   With nail dust comes bacteria. With bacteria, fungus and mites.  I have known the dust to get in hair ...thick, they itch.  
all that said, salons do the best they can.  If they can't control bacteria, fungus, and such how are they going to control virus.

In this economy with most business and officials not working out in the field, I doubt there will be any visits from State Board

[suzyQ3]

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@Blahblahvampemer wrote:

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@willdob3 wrote:

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@Deree wrote:

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@NYC Susan wrote:

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@germanshepherdlove wrote:

One of the barber shop owners requires masks and gloves for employees and clients and the door is locked as haircuts are done on an appointment basis.  After the client leaves, the chair is sanitized as well as scissors.  The barber shop owner said when you touch a bag of chips at the grocery store how do you know how many people touched it before you; so going to a barber shop would actually be more safe. 

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Yes, but for sure not every barber shop owner is going to be as meticulous as that one.  Especially when the regulations don't actually require much.  A lot of those barber shops are going to have customers waiting in close proximity to each other with no masks.  That's exactly what should not be happening.

And I also think being up close to someone's face is different than touching a bag of potato chips.  When I buy a bag of chips, I clean it off, wash my hands, and let it sit for a few days.  That seems a lot safer to me than being in a barber shop or beauty salon situation with close breathing and touching and other people in close proximity.

If they were going to move forward with this, they should have had regulations that actually had solid requirements rather than suggestions.

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I just need to repeat this for emphasis because it is critically important that @germanshepherdlove and others understand the difference between touching something and breathing on someone.  Anything that is touched can be washed of the virus but once you inhale the virus via close contact in a barbershop or salon you will get the virus.  Masks only protect about 40%.  If you talk to each other with masks on or breathe on someone in very close contact with a mask on you're risk of getting the virus is that much greater.

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@Deree 

I agree. It is going to be a long time before I’m willing to be that close to anyone. They may be taking as many precautions as they can and they may feel fine, BUT this virus has proven it really doesn’t care about that. Unless you are alone in a bubble 24/7, you could have contracted the virus and not know it.

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Something like 85% will either never know they had it, or the symptoms will be minor, and the mortality rate is far lower than initially stated.  The massive bulk of those that require treatment have at least one underlying health issue, and one study says they have at least two.  Sweden is pursuing herd immunity and not shutting down.  I'm not going to be surprised if trying to stop the virus the way we have will make the cure worse than the disease--especially since we have multiple treatments.  

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Oh, my. First, I believe I've heard that "cure worse than disease" somewhere several times. I thought it was incredibly wrong and shortsighted and still do.

Second, we most certainly do not have multiple treatments. That is just false.