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[Ms X]

On 1/12/2015 terrier3 said:

On 1/12/2015 Ms X said:

I remember Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz speaking up about attempts to railroad Mr. Zimmerman. IIRC, he said the prosecutor was way out of line. It is important that we uphold due process and our justice system regardless of political concerns. The mobs were calling for Zimmerman's prosecution in the absence of vetted evidence, AS USUAL. Who cannot see how dangerous that is?

He has shown, over and over, that he is dangerous.

I think he will come to a bad end...I hope he doesn't take out anyone else.

His past violent behavior was left out of the trial...perhaps if the jurors had the WHOLE story, things would have turned out differently.

I can't speak to the trial, terrier, but Dershowitz did, and that's good enough for me. The mobs were calling for a prosecution from minute 1 in the absence of any reliable info, AS USUAL. The New Black Panthers were calling for violence in public statements. No problem there, eh? I remember an outraged Dershowitz observing that jurors would probably be terrified of being killed by the New Black Panthers. Our legal system is being perverted by those with a political agenda.

Clearly, Zimmerman is a man with problems, but that doesn't make those who've used this tragedy as propaganda and sanctioned what Dershowitz called "railroading" of a defendant any more right. They are a mob that does not respect the justice system that protects every American against baseless prosecution. That's a whole lot worse in the larger picture than Zimmerman, who if he continues this behavior will likely land in jail, it seems to me.

[terrier3]

On 1/12/2015 Ms X said:

On 1/12/2015 terrier3 said:

On 1/12/2015 Ms X said:

I remember Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz speaking up about attempts to railroad Mr. Zimmerman. IIRC, he said the prosecutor was way out of line. It is important that we uphold due process and our justice system regardless of political concerns. The mobs were calling for Zimmerman's prosecution in the absence of vetted evidence, AS USUAL. Who cannot see how dangerous that is?

He has shown, over and over, that he is dangerous.

I think he will come to a bad end...I hope he doesn't take out anyone else.

His past violent behavior was left out of the trial...perhaps if the jurors had the WHOLE story, things would have turned out differently.

I can't speak to the trial, terrier, but Dershowitz did, and that's good enough for me. The mobs were calling for a prosecution from minute 1 in the absence of any reliable info, AS USUAL. The New Black Panthers were calling for violence in public statements. No problem there, eh? I remember an outraged Dershowitz observing that jurors would probably be terrified of being killed by the New Black Panthers. Our legal system is being perverted by those with a political agenda.

Clearly, Zimmerman is a man with problems, but that doesn't make those who've used this tragedy as propaganda and sanctioned what Dershowitz called "railroading" of a defendant any more right. They are a mob that does not respect the justice system that protects every American against baseless prosecution. That's a whole lot worse in the larger picture than Zimmerman, who if continues will at one point land in jail, it seems to me.

Dershowitz also defended OJ. Do you agree with him on THAT one too?

Skilled defense lawyers represent all defendants...and the best ones allow guilty men to go free.

[Ms X]

On 1/12/2015 terrier3 said:

On 1/12/2015 Ms X said:

On 1/12/2015 terrier3 said:

On 1/12/2015 Ms X said:

I remember Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz speaking up about attempts to railroad Mr. Zimmerman. IIRC, he said the prosecutor was way out of line. It is important that we uphold due process and our justice system regardless of political concerns. The mobs were calling for Zimmerman's prosecution in the absence of vetted evidence, AS USUAL. Who cannot see how dangerous that is?

He has shown, over and over, that he is dangerous.

I think he will come to a bad end...I hope he doesn't take out anyone else.

His past violent behavior was left out of the trial...perhaps if the jurors had the WHOLE story, things would have turned out differently.

I can't speak to the trial, terrier, but Dershowitz did, and that's good enough for me. The mobs were calling for a prosecution from minute 1 in the absence of any reliable info, AS USUAL. The New Black Panthers were calling for violence in public statements. No problem there, eh? I remember an outraged Dershowitz observing that jurors would probably be terrified of being killed by the New Black Panthers. Our legal system is being perverted by those with a political agenda.

Clearly, Zimmerman is a man with problems, but that doesn't make those who've used this tragedy as propaganda and sanctioned what Dershowitz called "railroading" of a defendant any more right. They are a mob that does not respect the justice system that protects every American against baseless prosecution. That's a whole lot worse in the larger picture than Zimmerman, who if continues will at one point land in jail, it seems to me.

Dershowitz also defended OJ. Do you agree with him on THAT one too?

Are you kidding, terrier? Of course I support a vigorous defense for any and all defendants. The rule of law and equal justice under law (which is inscribed on the entry to the Supreme Court's building) are what separates us from dictatorships in which the powerful do as they want without barriers. That's what these mobs are calling for when they immediately demand prosecutions based on skin color before the facts of an incident are even known.

Certainly, Prof. Dershowitz was not defending Zimmerman's behavior. As an expert on the legal process, he was observing the system's failure to follow proper procedure and protect a defendant's rights as a result of political pressure from the mobs in the streets.

[terrier3]

On 1/12/2015 Ms X said:

oo?

Are you kidding, terrier? Of course I support a vigorous defense for any and all defendants. The rule of law and equal justice under law (which is inscribed on the entry to the Supreme Court's building) are what separates us from dictatorships in which the powerful do as they want without barriers. That's what these mobs are calling for when they immediately demand prosecutions based on skin color before the facts of an incident are even known.

Certainly, Prof. Dershowitz was not defending Zimmerman's behavior. As an expert on the legal process, he was observing the system's failure to follow proper procedure and protect a defendant's rights as a result of political pressure from the mobs in the streets.

If Deshowitz says it...it's good enough for you - on cases where you agree with him.

Z got every benefit of the doubt, a great defense and is free.

He appears to be more of a danger to those he comes in contact with than any mob that may wish to attack him.

[Ms X]

On 1/12/2015 terrier3 said:

On 1/12/2015 Ms X said:

oo?

Are you kidding, terrier? Of course I support a vigorous defense for any and all defendants. The rule of law and equal justice under law (which is inscribed on the entry to the Supreme Court's building) are what separates us from dictatorships in which the powerful do as they want without barriers. That's what these mobs are calling for when they immediately demand prosecutions based on skin color before the facts of an incident are even known.

Certainly, Prof. Dershowitz was not defending Zimmerman's behavior. As an expert on the legal process, he was observing the system's failure to follow proper procedure and protect a defendant's rights as a result of political pressure from the mobs in the streets.

If Deshowitz says it...it's good enough for you - on cases where you agree with him.

Z got every benefit of the doubt, a great defense and is free.

He appears to be more of a danger to those he comes in contact with than any mob that may wish to attack him.

'On cases where I agree with him,' Terrier? What are you talking about? I thought OJ was guilty, but he still deserved the vigorous defense provided to everyone under our laws and Constitution. You are the one who routinely agrees with the mobs who demand prosecutions before ANY solid facts are known, not me.

[scotttie]

On 1/12/2015 bigsister said:

Why should we have to guess which George you are referring to?

Probably because she figures if she uses the whole name the thread will be immediately poofed. ;-)

[apple1964]

I really wish she would tell us ... I still do not know who or what George she is referring to.

[JustJules]

On 1/12/2015 Matty6 said:

From your title O/P I thought you meant Baby prince George. Oh well have not had my coffee yet

One could only hope. At least that would have been a more interesting subject.

[scotttie]

On 1/12/2015 Matty6 said:

I really wish she would tell us ... I still do not know who or what George she is referring to.

George Zimmerman. The man who was acquitted of murder in Florida a few months ago. He was the ""neighborhood watch"" guy.

[esmeraldagooch]

Who would want to date him anyway? It's not like they haven't heard his name.