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03-27-2018 07:29 PM - edited 03-27-2018 07:35 PM
My father always had guns in the house when I was growing up. Nothing semi automatic. He hunted. He kept them locked up in a case except for a hidden handgun, and I have no idea where he kept that. As a child, I thought this was nuts. I wouldn't tell anyone because it was embarrassing to me. He was a professional man who did well for himself. He was also into conspiracy theories big time. I know he was nuts. He would never haul off and run to engage in a mass shooting. So there are degrees of everything that can't be measured easily without more being done.
03-27-2018 08:37 PM
@tansywrote:
@Nonametodaywrote:
@QueenDanceALotwrote:
@cherrywrote:The president has the power to use the military to protect our kids, and this is a national crisis. I would do it if I sat in the Oval Office
The military is understaffed. Where will the personnel come from?
@QueenDanceALot Yes, that is what happened we ended the draft. Had the draft continued as it should have, patriotism would have continued. Those many of those who don't have to go, lose respect for the miltiary, feeling they are a cut above those who serve and have little or no respect what those give who serve.
The Vietnam draft did not make people more patriotic:/
If the draft were ever to be reinstated, everyone, with very few exceptions, in a certain age group must serve, @Nonametoday.
@tansy There were too many ivy leaguers getting dispensation and we know they all lead the pack in dissent and militancy. That should never be allowed again but the president who allowed that was out to make himself look as good as JFK --- that was LBJ.
03-27-2018 11:23 PM
@SahmIamwrote:
@Kalliwrote:Here’s the issue for me: we have to change what we’re doing. The current situation is not acceptable. So let’s give change a try. What if taking semi-automatics off the market DOES lower these incidents? Then we know we’re on the right track. If it doesn’t make a difference, try something else. But don’t accept the status quo.
@Kalli Not going to happen nor do I believe that is what you mean to say. Why? Because every pistol I own is a semi-automatic. Unless you're talking a revolver, Glocks (used by the police and Federal agents), Sigs, Ruger, etc are ALL semi-automatics. People need to educate themselves on the terms regarding weapons before they start demanding to do this or that.
THEN and only then can a true discussion begin.
@SahmIam My point is that if we don’t do something this type of tragedy will likely continue. I don’t have the answers but I think we should at least try to do something, try to make some type of change, and not just accept that this is going to happen and that’s just the way it is.
I read an interesting article by Heather Sheer. She refers to AR 15 and other high velocity weapons and the use of high capacity magazines. She discusses the damage done to the human body by these and how that destruction makes it so much more difficult for surgeons to save victims like those young folks from Marjory Stoneman Douglas.
03-27-2018 11:33 PM
@Kalli You are right! We have to do something. We can't just throw our hands in the air, sigh, "oh there they go again"and move on until it happens again. Why not try? Why not?
03-28-2018 06:41 AM - edited 03-28-2018 06:48 AM
Youthful protestors are not the only groups trying to stir up change and gain some stronger political support for their cause.
Schools are evaluating how they can increase student safety and security, and every local government is looking at how to provide and fund better protections.
Yet the most alarming thing is that we can take away all the guns in the world, but as long as crazy, drug-addicted, abused, mentally ill or terrorist-motivated people exist, they can always resort to other mass-killing methods to accomplish their goals.
We've already seen reports from around the world about mass-killing caused more hidden and insidious means such as arson, chemical poisoning and crude home-made bombs.
How do we cure human insanity? Seems we might increasingly need a few weapons in the right hands to protect the rest of us.
03-28-2018 09:35 AM
@Kalli I understand and support your point; please understand what I was saying. I hear so many individuals using the wrong terms, asking to do this and that without realizing what they are asking for. If you want someone to take you seriously, you MUST research and understand what you're talking about- that also means that what you want is NOT what you're going to get. Instead of coming across educated, rational and truly engage, you come across as irrational, uneducated and emotional; not what works in a serious discussion.
I'm not talking about you personally; I'm talking about so many heard via soundbites and interviews and well, you shake your head because you instantly realize they don't know what they're talking about.
I also have to say that I wish this much energy/anger was directed towards drunk driving. If people wonder why, research it as well. It's easy to understand why MADD members are angry.
03-28-2018 03:18 PM
The poor and recent immigrants were the ones who made up the Union Army 1860-65.
You could buy your way out of have a replacement-a family member did just that.
Thank heavens the other family member returned intact and lived to a ripe old age.
03-28-2018 07:58 PM - edited 03-28-2018 07:59 PM
@cherrywrote:The president has the power to use the military to protect our kids, and this is a national crisis. I would do it if I sat in the Oval Office
@cherry, The Military??? It should be left to each State's Board of Education to be sure the schools in their state are safe, it is a State problem, not a national problem!
You went from rocks to the military, LOL!!!
03-28-2018 08:09 PM
@Hootywrote:
@cherrywrote:The president has the power to use the military to protect our kids, and this is a national crisis. I would do it if I sat in the Oval Office
@cherry, The Military??? It should be left to each State's Board of Education to be sure the schools in their state are safe, it is a State problem, not a national problem!
You went from rocks to the military, LOL!!!
Obviously it’s an American problem, not confined to any one place.
First they came for the children, who knows who will be next?
03-28-2018 08:19 PM - edited 03-28-2018 08:43 PM
@Hootywrote:
@cherrywrote:The president has the power to use the military to protect our kids, and this is a national crisis. I would do it if I sat in the Oval Office
@cherry, The Military??? It should be left to each State's Board of Education to be sure the schools in their state are safe, it is a State problem, not a national problem!
You went from rocks to the military, LOL!!!
@Hooty I disagree - it is a national problem because these incidences have happened in a variety of states, and not just at schools.
I do agree that the State Boards of Education need to have better plans.
However, I will agree with you that the miltiary is not the answer.
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