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Re: For those interested in the process


@SaRina wrote:

 

 


@Maudelynn wrote:

 

The passport was a forgery.  The latest reports the terrorists were all Europeans.  There is no connection to those poor souls who watch their children drown in order to escape the madness of ISIS.   If there is any connection, it's the invented one in the minds of people who are looking for a scapegoat.

Fortunately, our leadership has learned from the mistakes of the past.  And th refugee program will continue.


That is exactly the point...a terrorist was trying to pose as a Syrian refugee and had on him a (forged) Syrian passport.  That is exactly how a terrorist is able to infiltrate.  Fake Syrian passports are easily obtained on the black market, which makes it easier for non-Syrians (e.g., terrorists) to obtain refuge in another country.

 

I disagree with you....for the immediate future.  I need to feel more confident about how we will be vetting and accepting refugees.  I don't know what that will take to make me feel more confident.  Perhaps when one has looked terror in the face, one has a different opinion.


I'm not understanding your logic.  But it's okay.  We can agree to disagree.

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Re: For those interested in the process


@Maudelynn wrote:

@RedConvertibleGirl wrote:

@mstyrion 1 wrote:

@RinaRina wrote:

@rosie03 wrote:

Who supports them once they are here?

 

 


Your taxes.

 


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Would you provide an official source that confirms this?

I know it is a popular opinion, but I haven't seen information that outlines exactly how this is handled.


 

Seriously?!  Who the heck do you think is going to pay for them? The last figure I saw, and I forget where so I'm sorry I can't site the course, said $640,000,000 is the cost to the taxpayers.  Yes, that's MILLIONS.


How does that impact you or your family?  It's pennies per taxpayer in the overall national and state budgets.  Or is it just the idea that bombed out families shouldn't get a nickel of your tax dollars?

 

OMG wow!  Just wow!  The other figure was roughly $247,000 per family of four.  I'll give you my address so you can send me money since you're OK with all of this.  I'm done replying to you.


 

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Re: For those interested in the process


@orangegarnet wrote:

We have tons of homeless VETS that can't get help, the poor guys on the streets don't have benefits ... they should come first, afterall they served and gave for our country!!! 


Getting appointments before they die maybe? 

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Re: For those interested in the process


@RedConvertibleGirl wrote:

@Maudelynn wrote:

@RedConvertibleGirl wrote:

@mstyrion 1 wrote:

@RinaRina wrote:

@rosie03 wrote:

Who supports them once they are here?

 

 


Your taxes.

 


_________________________________________________

 

Would you provide an official source that confirms this?

I know it is a popular opinion, but I haven't seen information that outlines exactly how this is handled.


 

Seriously?!  Who the heck do you think is going to pay for them? The last figure I saw, and I forget where so I'm sorry I can't site the course, said $640,000,000 is the cost to the taxpayers.  Yes, that's MILLIONS.


How does that impact you or your family?  It's pennies per taxpayer in the overall national and state budgets.  Or is it just the idea that bombed out families shouldn't get a nickel of your tax dollars?

 

OMG wow!  Just wow!  The other figure was roughly $247,000 per family of four.  I'll give you my address so you can send me money since you're OK with all of this.  I'm done replying to you.


 


Huh?  You're paying $247,000 for a refugee family? 

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Re: For those interested in the process


@60sgirl wrote:

@JustJazzmom wrote:

I seem to remember that a certain Congress cut funding to VA Centers across the USA. This link is from April of this year for the 2016 year funding budget.

See link:http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/19356/how-1-4-billion-in-budget-cuts-will-impact-veterans/

 

Folks if you are unhappy that veterans are not getting their rightly deserved benefits, you need to contact your Representatives in Congress to bring back those moneys to fund the the VA Centers..


so once again you want to take a discussion into a biased political statement? 

 

 The VA has always been run poorly and not always staffed by the best.  Our veterans should have access to the same care as those with private insurance and not have to wait for urgent appointments, care or top specialists.  If they are sick, admission to the nearest hospital or one of choice, should be the option.  Why should those who served be subjected to less than the best care.  All VAs are not bad places but many are....

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Re: For those interested in the process


@RedConvertibleGirl wrote:

@mstyrion 1 wrote:

@RinaRina wrote:

@rosie03 wrote:

Who supports them once they are here?

 

 


Your taxes.

 


_________________________________________________

 

Would you provide an official source that confirms this?

I know it is a popular opinion, but I haven't seen information that outlines exactly how this is handled.


 

Seriously?!  Who the heck do you think is going to pay for them? The last figure I saw, and I forget where so I'm sorry I can't site the course, said $640,000,000 is the cost to the taxpayers.  Yes, that's MILLIONS.


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I respect that is your opinion, but it doesn't answer the question

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Re: For those interested in the process


@mstyrion 1 wrote:

@orangegarnet wrote:

We have tons of homeless VETS that can't get help, the poor guys on the streets don't have benefits ... they should come first, afterall they served and gave for our country!!! 


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Their benefits have not been taken away. They are there but just not being used. They have VA benefits, SS, Medicare etc. just like every other citizen.  The problem is getting them the help they are entitled to.  A very different problem which has nothing whatsoever to do with new immigrants into this country.


Has everything to do with new immigrants. New immigrants cost us billions. There is only so much money and services to go around, and every immigrant (legal or otherwise, refugee or not) takes up money that people who served in the military, or worked and paid taxes, and need services doesn't get. We are not a bottomless pot of money and resources, but the world (and many of our own citizens who don't contribute) think we are.

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Re: For those interested in the process


@Jackaranda wrote:

Real quick, I have that pesky question of who is going to pay for these vaccinations,doctor visits, housing,school supplies for the children, cell phones,prescriptions, etc.?I mean they won!tbhave jobs yet when they land here, oh wait I just figured it out , the taxpayers. I will tell hubby to work some overtime.


Quick answer, we all are....but no COLA....

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Re: For those interested in the process


@Maudelynn wrote:

@Jackaranda wrote:

Real quick, I have that pesky question of who is going to pay for these vaccinations,doctor visits, housing,school supplies for the children, cell phones,prescriptions, etc.?I mean they won!tbhave jobs yet when they land here, oh wait I just figured it out , the taxpayers. I will tell hubby to work some overtime.


I'm assuming the taxpayer has footed the bill, both at federal and state levels for participation in America's refugee program.  I'm assuming there has always been a budget, which has been funded every year.  Business as usual.

 

I have not heard that our taxes will increase as a result of 10,000 syrian refugees.  Have you?


Even if they (taxes) don't increase, there is only so much money and services to go around. Either taxes go up or services go down (less people already here served or served less). What other options are there?

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Re: For those interested in the process


@Maudelynn wrote:

@SaRina wrote:

Thank you for posting this, Maudelynn.  I hope the process is truly as detailed and thorough as described.

 

I wholeheartedly supported taking in refugees....until the recent events of the past couple of weeks.  I have done an about-face and feel very strongly that our priority now needs to be protecting our own citizens from possible infiltration.  IMO we need to hold off on the process.  


So I can be clear. What exactly does the event Paris have to do with Syrian refugees?  35% of the refugees we've taken in have been from Asia.  Should we stop that too?


Maybe.