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[KALLIE]

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@MomCat wrote:

It's about time some government handouts were cut.  The only surprise is it happening now.  I expect a lot more to be cut in the near future!!!  It better be!

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^THIS.

[Trinity11]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Unfortunately,  unless cuts are made for everyone except the disabled and elderly the affect will be more children born for no other reason than to qualify for assistance. It's no different from those who travel from other countries to give birth in our country. I don't mean only poor people or illegals. 

It's not fair to the child who is used to qualify or to those paying taxes that they should be allowed to save for their retirement. 

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Ever hear of family cap laws? 

[Lila Belle]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@MaggieMack wrote:

The article says that benefits will be cut for those 18-49 who are not disabled and who have no children. This doesn't impact children. And not all states are impacted. We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country in my city and, yet, you can't drive down the street without seeing billboards begging people to work. Most 18-49 year-olds who are not disabled should be able to find something to cover their cutoff in the SNAP program.

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@MaggieMack

Thank you for clarifying that. That was my understanding after a quick skim of the OP.

But whenever the topic of welfare related programs come up, people start screaming about the children first, even when it doesn't apply, like in this instance.

And what people seem to forget here is that children in the poverty range are fed at school at least twice a day now, for free (or very reduced) and many federal programs and local programs pick up that duty in the summer.

So while I don't deny that there are hungry children in this nation, most of them are seeing food daily, something my mother and her sisters didn't get when growing up in the 1930's and 40's. There was no safety net then, and they went hungry very often. But you know what, it was a motivator. None of the 6 of them ever allowed that to happen to their children. They over came lack of education (none of them graduated high school), poverty, and other things I won't mention here, to provide for their families. Seems the more we give, the less people do for themselves. 

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Um, our country is a lot richer and much more prosperous than we were during the Great Depression.

Does it make you feel better to think that because others did without long ago that children today should buck up and think of it as being character building?

[Lila Belle]

Should we get rid of Medicare and Social Security because people should look out for themselves and save for health expenses and retirement when they get old instead of expecting entitlements from the government?

[HappyDaze]

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

25% of American military families use food stamps.  That's from a 2014 report, I have read it's gone up since then.

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@Noel7

You have mentioned this (or someone else did) in other threads, and this is simply disgusting.

No military family should ever receive food stamps. They should be so highly paid they wouldn't even come close to qualifying, then double that salary.

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@Mominohio

We totally agree here

DH and I were a military family.  Luckily we had no children at the time and I worked and made a good salary. But I came to know a lot of other military people, families, for whom it was a daily struggle, and it seems nothing has changed.

We ask those men and women to be ready to give their lives for us and many do.  When they are in that position they should not have to worry about how they will continue to put food on the table.

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Oh my gosh ladies @Noel7 @MominohioI so agree! 

[kdgn]

I can't believe some of what I have read over theses 4 pages. I think I'm going to be ill......

[MaggieMack]

Most have paid into Social Security their whole working lives, and Medicare, too, through employee and employer contributions. These are "entitlements" because people have paid into the programs and are "entitled" to draw out what they have contributed.

[Lila Belle]

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@January121 wrote:

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@scotnovel wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

I just read an article this morning that the families of the NYC police can't make ends meet.  They don't even earn enough to live where they work and the Mayor is doing nothing to help, even though he promised to.

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The police union there is in the middle of a salary negotiating process so the ad that the PBA has taken out focused on the wife of a policer officer with 3 kids who is having trouble making ends meet.  Since this is part of the campaign to get public support for their cause, it is probably embellished a little.

I don't doubt that there are police officers all over this country who are underpaid.  But I also believe that if you can't afford three kids then you shouldn't have three. Unfortunately we live in a society that says I should get paid more because I can't afford my lifestyle.  When I grew up you figured out how much money you were making and that determined what your lifestyle would be until you were able to improve your income level.  

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@scotnovel ..... I totally agree with you .... every time I see the ad with the wife of the police officer with 3 kids my blood pressure hits the roof!!! .... they should have stopped at 1 kid & they would be able to make ends meet!!! ... she probably will have more kids & expect the rest of us to pay for them ... these people make me sick!!!!

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Are you proposing a law allowing a woman/ couple to have only one child as China did in the past?

[segrl21]

Live on the West Coast, Oregon, and food here is very expensive. I know a lot of working people that have to be on SNAP so they can afford food for their families. Good paying jobs are scarce. There are lots of part-time and lower waged jobs but very few good paying jobs. Since our wages are stagnant and prices rise, including rent many people that work need them. Hate the judgement that is passed on people for using SNAP because many of them are working, are hard workers but have difficulty affording the price in food prices.  Peoples paychecks stay the same but prices keep increasing on everything. They're called the working poor and our country is full of them.

[KALLIE]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@MaggieMack wrote:

The article says that benefits will be cut for those 18-49 who are not disabled and who have no children. This doesn't impact children. And not all states are impacted. We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country in my city and, yet, you can't drive down the street without seeing billboards begging people to work. Most 18-49 year-olds who are not disabled should be able to find something to cover their cutoff in the SNAP program.

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@MaggieMack

Thank you for clarifying that. That was my understanding after a quick skim of the OP.

But whenever the topic of welfare related programs come up, people start screaming about the children first, even when it doesn't apply, like in this instance.

And what people seem to forget here is that children in the poverty range are fed at school at least twice a day now, for free (or very reduced) and many federal programs and local programs pick up that duty in the summer.

So while I don't deny that there are hungry children in this nation, most of them are seeing food daily, something my mother and her sisters didn't get when growing up in the 1930's and 40's. There was no safety net then, and they went hungry very often. But you know what, it was a motivator. None of the 6 of them ever allowed that to happen to their children. They over came lack of education (none of them graduated high school), poverty, and other things I won't mention here, to provide for their families. Seems the more we give, the less people do for themselves. 

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GREAT post. SO TRUE. Your last sentence says it all!