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[Mindy D]

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@Snoopp wrote:

I want to know what the “severe” side effects were.

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@Snoopp One of the two participants that had the severe side effects has written an article about it online. He had the severe effects on the highest doseage. The next phase will not be testing this doseage on any more people. The mans name is Ian Haydon, age 29, of Seattle. Twelve hours after receiving his second dose, he developed a fever of more than 103 degrees, sought medical attention, and, after being released from an urgent care facility, fainted in his home. He also had nausea and chills. He recovered within a day.

[Mindy D]

A vaccine that is effective in younger people might not be effective in older people. 

[shoesnbags]

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@Mindy D wrote:

A vaccine that is effective in younger people might not be effective in older people. 

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@Mindy D 

True, but wouldn't older folks be safer because there would be less COVID circulating in the general population? (Trying to be positive here, as an older person!)

[Mindy D]

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@shoesnbags wrote:

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@Mindy D wrote:

A vaccine that is effective in younger people might not be effective in older people. 

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@Mindy D 

True, but wouldn't older folks be safer because there would be less COVID circulating in the general population? (Trying to be positive here, as an older person!)

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The answer is unknown. It's a maybe, maybe not. That depends of a few factors. If the vaccine was incredibly effective at preventing infection and provided long lasting protection to about 95% of the population if could provide a cushion, but having a vaccine that's highly effective in older populations is preferable. If we get a pretty good response in older persons, it is possible that it might protect in a similar way to the influenza vaccines, not highly effective at preventing infections across all age groups, but good at preventing deaths once infected. At this stage, there's no way to know. Hotez is working on his own vaccine right now. I'm taking this information from Dr. Peter Hotez, one of the world's foremost scientists (M.D., PHD) in vaccinology, the field of vaccine development and study,  and Professor at Baylor. His lab is developing a COVID-19 vaccine . An M.D. and Ph.D., he’s a professor and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, and co-director of the Texas Children’s Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.

A team at Harvard is working on a vaccine and trying to address immunity for the elderly. This article in "Scientific American" has more about the efforts to attain this goal.this is the title of the article. It can be read online. "Coronavirus Vaccines May Not Work for the Elderly--and This Lab Aims to Change That."

Coronavirus Vaccines May Not Work for the Elderly—and This Lab Aims to Change That

[Sheila P-Burg]

Sorry but the timeline they are pushing for a vaccine is a little too fast for me. I am with a few others. I will not be one of the first to stand in line for the vaccine and if I have any say in the matter will wait a while before getting it. 

I have concerns of what side effects in the future there might be from this new vaccine. Prefer a wait and see attitude.

[Porcelain]

This is wonderful news! We just need to hang in there and take care of each other and protect each other for a while longer while this and several other vaccine candidates go through their development and trials. This also means: Every preventable Covid death that occurs between now and a vaccine is a precious life tragically wasted.

A combination of normalized quick-response safety protocols alongside a vaccine, and we could get back to pretty close to life as it used to be. That is what we all want. This is definitely sunshine and rainbows Covid news. I say celebrate anything positive and progressive related to this disease that you can!

(I expect to see the folks who have been diligently requesting Covid sunshine and rainbows posts weighing in with their excitement and delight soon...right? Bueller? )

[Anonymous032819]

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@FrostyBabe1 wrote:

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@SeaMaiden wrote:

we still will have no vaccine for well over another year OR MORE... then getting everyone vaccinated will take another year or more... so do not expect quick results... we are in this for the long haul... probably into 2023 or later...

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Not true. Pfizer released results from the phase 1/2 studies of the vaccine they're developing with BioNTech on July 1st:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-early-po... 

This was WIDELY, positively reported in the national news media, yet not a word was mentioned here. 

Two of their 4 candidates are on fast track status with the FDA:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-granted-fda-fast-... 

From various other, public sources, those vaccines are being made here in the US, in facilities that were part of the company that I spent the bulk of my career with prior to them being acquired by the big P.  It's about 10 minutes from my house. The manufacturing facility has the capability to produce 100 million doses by the end of this year, and 1.2 billion by the end of next year, once FDA approval is received. 

Yes, there are potential side effects, but they were similar to those of other vaccines. And no one will force you to receive one, just like you're not forced to receive other vaccines. 

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@FrostyBabe1 wrote:

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@SeaMaiden wrote:

we still will have no vaccine for well over another year OR MORE... then getting everyone vaccinated will take another year or more... so do not expect quick results... we are in this for the long haul... probably into 2023 or later...

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Not true. Pfizer released results from the phase 1/2 studies of the vaccine they're developing with BioNTech on July 1st:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-early-po... 

This was WIDELY, positively reported in the national news media, yet not a word was mentioned here. 

Two of their 4 candidates are on fast track status with the FDA:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-granted-fda-fast-... 

From various other, public sources, those vaccines are being made here in the US, in facilities that were part of the company that I spent the bulk of my career with prior to them being acquired by the big P.  It's about 10 minutes from my house. The manufacturing facility has the capability to produce 100 million doses by the end of this year, and 1.2 billion by the end of next year, once FDA approval is received. 

Yes, there are potential side effects, but they were similar to those of other vaccines. And no one will force you to receive one, just like you're not forced to receive other vaccines. 

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@FrostyBabe1 

By the tone of some of these posts,  it's almost like some don't want there to be any vaccine at all.

It's almost like they want things to stay the way that they are now.

It's like they're happier to have things the way they are now, and don't want things to get better.

It's like they enjoy all of the doom and gloom.

Very puzzling, indeed.

[bikerbabe]

I’ll gladly test a vaccine.