First order of business for the New Year - Page 5

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

@hckynutjohn wrote:
@Maudelynn wrote:
Background checks. Bring it on!
Let's hope it has an impact. We'll never know if we don't try.

And then there was THE facebook that WAS NOT checked and look at that cost. Any check is no better than who is doing it. How's about enforcing the ones that are already on the books? We'll never know if we don't fully enforce the ones that already exist.

hckynut(john)

John - We have the highest level of incarceration of any developed country. MANY of the people in jail are there for gun laws on the books.

The laws are enforced to the point where we have more people in the penal system (jail, parole, felons, etc.) than anywhere else on earth!

hckynutjohn · ‎06-15-2015

@JustJazzmom wrote:
@hckynutjohn wrote:

Just as with motor vehicle safety. Add more technology/add a couple or more zero's to the price. A good dependable handgun is not what I consider to be cheap purchase right now. I belong to the NRA and I seen nothing in the many things they send me about being against technology.

Looked at all the people that were killed and critically injured because GM decided saving $16 on an ignition switch was more important than their customers lives. And some talk about the NRA?

hckynut(john)
The number of people killed due to a faulty ignition switch does not compare to the number accidental shootings/ deaths of people caused by toddlers, children and adults getting a hold of someone else's gun and firing it.

Check stats: no "toddler" has fingers long/strong enough or hand big enough to fire my handgun. The safety against this is already on many handguns, including mine. I am assuming a 10 year old is not a toddler and 18 year olds are no longer children.

I would be in favor of adding more zeroes into the price for this kind of technology-- if it saves toddlers and children from being accidentally shot by other toddlers/children who happen to get a hold of the firearm, it would be worth it.

Read my above paragraph. Since it appears you would never buy a handgun it is reasonable for me to see why "adding more zeros" would be favorable to you. It is not a handgun's lack of technology anymore than it is a vehicle's when an irresponsible drunk driver kills toddlers/children. It is the driver of the vehicle and the irresponsible handgun owners that are the reasons, not an inanimate object

I'm interested in saving lives; not lining the pockets of the lobbyists and gun manufacturers in this country who benefit from this technology not being put into place.

I too am interested in saving lives. Technology exists that could prevent any vehicle from being started by only the owner, and only if they are not intoxicated. Add a few more zeros to ALL vehicles and save many lives. I am in favor of doing this to save lives and prevent tens of thousands of critical injuries. Lining pockets/lobbyists? That is a completely different topic in my view.

hckynut(john)

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Maudelynn · ‎05-08-2015

People can squawk and yell all they want. We won't know what impact it will have until we've tried. Thank you Mr. President, for thinking enough about the safety of our citizens to force this change. We'll have an entire year to judge the effects.

Funny that we're so willing to give up other freedoms- it's ok for our phone calls to be monitored, it's ok to go through the 3rd degree when travelling, it's ok that our internet activity can be tracked- when we think we may be in danger of middle eastern terrorists. But when the terrorists live in our neighborhood, we're reluctant to impede on their "rights".

You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

hckynutjohn · ‎06-15-2015

@Lila Belle wrote:

Look at anything he comes up with and ask yourself. If this was already done earlier in the year, would it have had any impact on stopping even one gun death this year. If so which one and why? Gun killings daily on the street in Chicago, San Bernadino, Chatanooga Marine reserve center, Charleston Church shooting?
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Yeah, look at everything he's tried to do and ask yourself if it were another president would it have easily passed into law.... ?

I am not exactly sure of your question(?) Makes little sense to me, care to explain?

hckynut(john)

hckynut(john)

Lila Belle · ‎01-24-2013

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Maudelynn · ‎05-08-2015

@hckynutjohn wrote:
@Lila Belle wrote:

Look at anything he comes up with and ask yourself. If this was already done earlier in the year, would it have had any impact on stopping even one gun death this year. If so which one and why? Gun killings daily on the street in Chicago, San Bernadino, Chatanooga Marine reserve center, Charleston Church shooting?
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Yeah, look at everything he's tried to do and ask yourself if it were another president would it have easily passed into law.... ?

I am not exactly sure of your question(?) Makes little sense to me, care to explain?

hckynut(john)

You do remember that when this president was elected, the plan was to block anything and everything he proposed, right? It's been widely reported now for the past 7 years.

You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

JustJazzmom · ‎03-09-2010

The only thing I will say to John's remarks is cars were designed to be driven; guns were designed for killing or injuring.

☼The best place to seek God is in a garden. You can dig for him there. GBShaw☼

Brittany-QVC · ‎06-14-2015

Moved:

This post has been removed by QVC. Unkind.

Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
@RainCityWoman wrote:
@deepwaterdotter wrote:
I underwent a background check when I purchased my firearm, it was painless and went smoothly. I didn't feel violated or intruded upon.
Exactly. So you have to wonder what some who are so vehemently against it are hiding.
Because a person doesn't agree with background checks doesn't mean they are "hiding something." A person has a right to privacy, or at least, they should.
I wouldn't do a background check to get a firearm.
It's none of the government's business.

AMEN! @YorkieonmyPillow

HappyDaze · ‎06-13-2012

@Maudelynn wrote:
People can squawk and yell all they want. We won't know what impact it will have until we've tried. Thank you Mr. President, for thinking enough about the safety of our citizens to force this change. We'll have an entire year to judge the effects.

Funny that we're so willing to give up other freedoms- it's ok for our phone calls to be monitored, it's ok to go through the 3rd degree when travelling, it's ok that our internet activity can be tracked- when we think we may be in danger of middle eastern terrorists. But when the terrorists live in our neighborhood, we're reluctant to impede on their "rights".

Many of the states where mass shootings took place already HAVE background checks in place, that is the point. So we already DO know what impact they have (little to none) since we have tried it. Oregon has background checks, even at their gun shows despite what the media has told you, so does California. Both have had mass shootings or other horrible incidents occur.

I know you would like to think the background checks will solve all our gun problems but it won't and you ignore the facts that many here have presented to you regarding background checks. We need to enforce the laws already in place and fix the broken system- like not allowing people with criminal histories THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH BACKGROUND CHECKS to still obtain guns That is a flaw in the system and should never happen, yet it does, on a regular basis. So you can pile on more and more laws but until those laws are actually enforced, they mean nothing and hold no weight and the shootings will continue..