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04-15-2019 12:40 PM
@Bri369 wrote:
@Cats3000 wrote:@Bri369 That's how law inforcement works.
I know how law enforcement works.
The parents shouldn't have to wait for their kids to be targeted before doing the right thing and owning up to what they did.
If the kids were complicit, then they will find themselves in trouble with the law also.
I'm sure most of those kids knew what they were doing or what their parents were doing were wrong, but had no idea they were facing federal charges.
I hope I'm making myself clear. I'm not excusing what anyone did at all.
Judging from the way Lori Loughlin was behaving prior to her first hearing, I don't think some of the parents had any idea they'd be in as much trouble as they are either. I honestly think some of them, especially Lori, thought they'd get a slap on the wrist over this.
04-15-2019 12:47 PM - edited 04-15-2019 07:34 PM
I'm not sure this is kosher with me. It implies students had control over their parents actions. While that might be true in some cases, it isn't universally true and would seem to be hard to prove. For example, I can't say I like Loughlin's daughter any better than I like her, but it seems she made it clear she didn't really care about college. Mommy Dearest pushed the envelope anyway. The girl clearly knew, but does that make her responsible? There are problably other cases where the student had even less awareness or control over what their parents did. If it can be proven that the student instigated it then fine, have at it.
04-15-2019 12:56 PM
Yes, of course. That was always their plan because 18 year olds are legal adults and 90% of those students absolutely had to know what was going on because those that were getting in as fake athletes would have to know that so they could be prepared if questions came up. And then there is the matter of grades and qualifications; kids all know what schools they can get into and what schools they cannot get into. They know what their grade are, they know what their test scores are so if "BAM!" they get into a competitive, top knotch school...they know that mom and dad have been putting the millions to good use. Many of those parents who are rolling the dice and refusing to plead guilty will change their minds about that after a couple of students have been arrested or charged with something.
04-15-2019 01:46 PM
@NicksmomESQ wrote:Good!! At 18 you’re a legal adult.You can vote, you can go to war & you can get married.You’re old enough to know better.
They need to be charged with something, but not to the extent of the parents.
On these very boards, there have been sympathetic stories of
young 20-yr olds, who did wrong, but some posters would say
‘they’re not mentally developed at 20-something’, implying the
Public/law needs to be more understanding.’
We just had a topic about not too long ago...
04-15-2019 07:02 PM
Hi @sidsmom
Not by me. I have been saying the same thing on these forums for years. If you are of "legal age" the responsibility rests in their choices, "fully cooked(judge judy)" or not!
hckynut
04-15-2019 07:30 PM
@sidsmom wrote:
@NicksmomESQ wrote:Good!! At 18 you’re a legal adult.You can vote, you can go to war & you can get married.You’re old enough to know better.
They need to be charged with something, but not to the extent of the parents.
On these very boards, there have been sympathetic stories of
young 20-yr olds, who did wrong, but some posters would say
‘they’re not mentally developed at 20-something’, implying the
Public/law needs to be more understanding.’
We just had a topic about not too long ago...
@sidsmom The law says you’re a legal adult at 18. It also states that ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law.As far as what other people have said on these boards, I can only speak for myself.On this I agree with @hckynut .
04-15-2019 08:01 PM
Even at fourteen or fifteen, you couldn't have paid me to pretend to be an athlete, or have someone else take my tests, etc., etc.
It wouldn't have made any sense to me.
Why would I want to place myself in a college where most of the other students were smarter, having high scores, etc. (?)
Even at that age, I'd want to be placed somewhere where I felt as though I 'fit in', scholastically.
Brings me back to when the elementary school wanted to 'skip' me.
I recall telling my mother that, if skipped, I would have missed one whole year of learning a variety of subject matter. And how would I be able to learn all of one- year's-worth of information?
Being skipped didn't make any sense to me at that time.
Thank goodness my mom respected my viewpoint. ![]()
04-15-2019 10:30 PM
04-15-2019 10:33 PM
04-16-2019 10:52 AM
@Johnnyeager wrote:But Mark Riddell could have corrected it to give her a perfect score.
That would really have looked shady. Not many people get a perfect score.
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