Emotional Support Service Dogs??? - Page 8

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 6/14/2014 terrier3 said:
On 6/14/2014 azterry! said:
On 6/14/2014 happy housewife said:
I wonder if those getting their panties in a knot over this discussion are because they are ones who are abusing this?

I doubt it.

I guess you could use the same (flawed) logic and suggest all those who are so skeptical are human and animal haters.

The posters questioning who is entitled to service dogs and people with dogs they see in public are in the same group of posters who question other shoppers' food choices and what currency they use to pay the cashier.

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That list goes on and on, questioning whether someone is needy enough to use a disabled parking space, get good stamps, etc.

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azterry! · ‎10-21-2011

On 6/14/2014 terrier3 said:
On 6/14/2014 chessylady said: It boils down to ethics and entitlement. People who pass their dogs off as service animals when they are not have a lack of ethics. They feel they are entitled to have their dogs with them regardless of the rules and how it may affect others.

I think the % of people abusing the law is miniscule.

And it's not worth worrying over.

I agree and it is not up to any of us to second guess who is deserving and who is not.

I am willing to let Karma take over if someone is abusing the privilege.

Photo Donna · ‎03-09-2010

oh -- and Huffington Post....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/fake-service-dog-certificates_n_3709720.html

Hey you, get off of my cloud...

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 6/14/2014 Free2be said:
If a dog is acting up, disruptive and disobedient, it would be logical that it isn't providing all that much comfort to the owner, let alone anyone else in close quarters.

I have never witnessed any "service" dog that appeared to not be genuine. Even at Costco with a food sampling vendor nearby, the dog had no impulse to have a sample and was oblivious to anything other than their responsibility.

I was in Michael's once and heard a commotion. Several women were harassing a younger woman who looked to be in her early 30s, because she had a small dog with her. She explained to them she had serious issues with anxiety and rarely got out of her house, her dog was an accredited therapy dog (and wearing a vest). She showed them an ID tag and some papers but they wouldn't leave her alone.

She was crying and obviously upset. I got her away from them and let her talk a bit. It was awful, like a lynch mob.

To those carping, If there is no obvious trouble.... MYOB.

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NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

On 6/14/2014 azterry! said:
On 6/14/2014 terrier3 said:
On 6/14/2014 chessylady said: It boils down to ethics and entitlement. People who pass their dogs off as service animals when they are not have a lack of ethics. They feel they are entitled to have their dogs with them regardless of the rules and how it may affect others.

I think the % of people abusing the law is miniscule.

And it's not worth worrying over.

I agree and it is not up to any of us to second guess who is deserving and who is not.

I am willing to let Karma take over if someone is abusing the privilege.

Me, too. Too many busy bodies who don't understand much of anything.

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Free2be · ‎03-10-2010

From the article PD posted:

Take Delta Airlines (here). If you claim to need four-legged emotional support to stave off a panic attack on your next flight, you will need to provide the airline with a signed letter from a “licensed mental health professional.” (Your family doctor will not do the trick.) The letter must include the professional’s address and phone number, and it must state that you have a disorder listed in the 4th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association. Further, you have to be under active treatment for your disorder by this “mental health professional.” The good news is that this letter, however, will allow your pet to accompany you in the cabin of the plane for free for a year.

This is excellent for the airlines. I think it is a little rigid that the diagnosed person must be in active treatment. Disabilities don't always require constant treatment but I can see why airlines would be extra stringent.

It would also be good for all those who take comfort animals everywhere -- an MD or better, a mental health professional's documentation of need.

kdgn · ‎03-09-2010

On 6/14/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 6/14/2014 Free2be said:
If a dog is acting up, disruptive and disobedient, it would be logical that it isn't providing all that much comfort to the owner, let alone anyone else in close quarters.

I have never witnessed any "service" dog that appeared to not be genuine. Even at Costco with a food sampling vendor nearby, the dog had no impulse to have a sample and was oblivious to anything other than their responsibility.

I was in Michael's once and heard a commotion. Several women were harassing a younger woman who looked to be in her early 30s, because she had a small dog with her. She explained to them she had serious issues with anxiety and rarely got out of her house, her dog was an accredited therapy dog (and wearing a vest). She showed them an ID tag and some papers but they wouldn't leave her alone.

She was crying and obviously upset. I got her away from them and let her talk a bit. It was awful, like a lynch mob.

To those carping, If there is no obvious trouble.... MYOB.

And this is why I think those who are selling the vests to just anyone need to be stopped.

This poor woman had a genuine need, had the appropriate paperwork and the others needed to back off and leave her alone.

Free2be · ‎03-10-2010

On 6/14/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 6/14/2014 Free2be said:
If a dog is acting up, disruptive and disobedient, it would be logical that it isn't providing all that much comfort to the owner, let alone anyone else in close quarters.

I have never witnessed any "service" dog that appeared to not be genuine. Even at Costco with a food sampling vendor nearby, the dog had no impulse to have a sample and was oblivious to anything other than their responsibility.

I was in Michael's once and heard a commotion. Several women were harassing a younger woman who looked to be in her early 30s, because she had a small dog with her. She explained to them she had serious issues with anxiety and rarely got out of her house, her dog was an accredited therapy dog (and wearing a vest). She showed them an ID tag and some papers but they wouldn't leave her alone.

She was crying and obviously upset. I got her away from them and let her talk a bit. It was awful, like a lynch mob.

To those carping, If there is no obvious trouble.... MYOB.

This is just the kind of thing that is disturbing. That some people will prefer a person have a disabling panic attack for their own comfort -- especially when their discomfort wasn't real, just a reason to bully her.

These are just plain mean people.