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[pitdakota]

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

Marp, I just went back to work email (only because it was you ), but both of the emails were just basic news releases with no other specific information that is any different than what the media is carrying.

I also went to both the WHO and CDC website and couldn't locate anything specific at this time.

Will be interesting to follow & see what it is....maybe another zoonotic disease? Or maybe something else. Dengue is not uncommon in that area ...could be a variation? Guess we will just have to see what else comes out.

Thanks Pit. I doubt it is Dengue just because it is so common and recognizable. A variation--perhaps. At least so far the death rate is relatively low so it is apparently treatable or self-limiting. I do think zoonotic is probable particularly considering the suspected point of origin.

Please let me know if you learn anything specific. I will also keep up with WHO and CDC.

Once again, thank you.

Will do!!

[foundinlv]

On 8/21/2014 herekitty_kitty said:

On 8/21/2014 ILikeShade said:

On 8/21/2014 traveler said:

I remember a few years when SP was governor. A native village was suffering and needed fuel and food. They appealed to the state. The governor brought Franklin there to preach. I think they received help from other people's donations.

I guess serving Christ in that native village was not a priority for that religious organization.

serve Christ or starve.

love God but boy do his or her so called messengers s u c k.

You got that right yet they spent OVER $2 million dollars for two gulfstream jets to bring back the doctor and his assistant.

[NoelSeven]

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

On 8/21/2014 Love Roses said:

Exactly. He could be like a typhoid Mary with others he does come into contact with. I am not that gullible to just go along with the authorities at all anymore. We have been mislead too many times on too many issues.

No you cannot compare the 2 at all. First of all, ebola is a virus and typhoid is a bacteria. Bacteria and viruses are totally different from each other. They do not act the same at all.

Second of all, if there is no virus in their system.....it is not even plausible that anyone could become infected by someone that doesn't even have the virus. In other words think of it this way. How can someone acquire chickenpox from someone else that doesn't have chickenpox?

And it isn't about believing authorities. It is basic science. It is about knowing about viruses, bacteria, or any other microbe and immunology.

I'm very glad you found this line, PD

Hi Noel!!

ETA: Somewhat hard to transmit a virus to someone if you don't have the virus in your body. Not to mention that he now has acquired immunity to this strain of ebola. Best kind of immunity to have!!

Yes, I said that earlier only to get an unintelligible mumble in response.

[Marp2]

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

Marp, I just went back to work email (only because it was you ), but both of the emails were just basic news releases with no other specific information that is any different than what the media is carrying.

I also went to both the WHO and CDC website and couldn't locate anything specific at this time.

Will be interesting to follow & see what it is....maybe another zoonotic disease? Or maybe something else. Dengue is not uncommon in that area ...could be a variation? Guess we will just have to see what else comes out.

Thanks Pit. I doubt it is Dengue just because it is so common and recognizable. A variation--perhaps. At least so far the death rate is relatively low so it is apparently treatable or self-limiting. I do think zoonotic is probable particularly considering the suspected point of origin.

Please let me know if you learn anything specific. I will also keep up with WHO and CDC.

Once again, thank you.

I remember hearing years ago that zoonotic diseases were coming because of the increasing disappearance of the rain forest and other deforestation.

Do you think that's a part of it?

Noel, IMO that is certainly a very real possibility as a contributing factor. To the best of my knowledge no research has been done on what the soil in these disrupted areas (throughout the world) might harbor, at least not until there is an outbreak of some heretofore unseen disease.

[NoelSeven]

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

Marp, I just went back to work email (only because it was you ), but both of the emails were just basic news releases with no other specific information that is any different than what the media is carrying.

I also went to both the WHO and CDC website and couldn't locate anything specific at this time.

Will be interesting to follow & see what it is....maybe another zoonotic disease? Or maybe something else. Dengue is not uncommon in that area ...could be a variation? Guess we will just have to see what else comes out.

Thanks Pit. I doubt it is Dengue just because it is so common and recognizable. A variation--perhaps. At least so far the death rate is relatively low so it is apparently treatable or self-limiting. I do think zoonotic is probable particularly considering the suspected point of origin.

Please let me know if you learn anything specific. I will also keep up with WHO and CDC.

Once again, thank you.

I remember hearing years ago that zoonotic diseases were coming because of the increasing disappearance of the rain forest and other deforestation.

Do you think that's a part of it?

Noel, IMO that is certainly a very real possibility as a contributing factor. To the best of my knowledge no research has been done on what the soil in these disrupted areas (throughout the world) might harbor, at least not until there is an outbreak of some heretofore unseen disease.

Yes, there's another concern...

[pitdakota]

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

Marp, I just went back to work email (only because it was you ), but both of the emails were just basic news releases with no other specific information that is any different than what the media is carrying.

I also went to both the WHO and CDC website and couldn't locate anything specific at this time.

Will be interesting to follow & see what it is....maybe another zoonotic disease? Or maybe something else. Dengue is not uncommon in that area ...could be a variation? Guess we will just have to see what else comes out.

Thanks Pit. I doubt it is Dengue just because it is so common and recognizable. A variation--perhaps. At least so far the death rate is relatively low so it is apparently treatable or self-limiting. I do think zoonotic is probable particularly considering the suspected point of origin.

Please let me know if you learn anything specific. I will also keep up with WHO and CDC.

Once again, thank you.

I remember hearing years ago that zoonotic diseases were coming because of the increasing disappearance of the rain forest and other deforestation.

Do you think that's a part of it?

Many do hold that as their theory. Fact is as we cut down parts of the rain forest or jungles and move villages etc. into those areas, man is coming into contact with many viruses that are not known to us. Many times those viruses are present in certain animals that are hosts & that ultimately puts those individuals at risk for exposure.

Some experts contend we have multiple other viruses out there that are not known to us at this time that we will start to see as man continues to encroach & build villages in those jungles.

[NoelSeven]

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

On 8/21/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 8/21/2014 Marp2 said:

On 8/21/2014 pitdakota said:

Marp, I just went back to work email (only because it was you ), but both of the emails were just basic news releases with no other specific information that is any different than what the media is carrying.

I also went to both the WHO and CDC website and couldn't locate anything specific at this time.

Will be interesting to follow & see what it is....maybe another zoonotic disease? Or maybe something else. Dengue is not uncommon in that area ...could be a variation? Guess we will just have to see what else comes out.

Thanks Pit. I doubt it is Dengue just because it is so common and recognizable. A variation--perhaps. At least so far the death rate is relatively low so it is apparently treatable or self-limiting. I do think zoonotic is probable particularly considering the suspected point of origin.

Please let me know if you learn anything specific. I will also keep up with WHO and CDC.

Once again, thank you.

I remember hearing years ago that zoonotic diseases were coming because of the increasing disappearance of the rain forest and other deforestation.

Do you think that's a part of it?

Many do hold that as their theory. Fact is as we cut down parts of the rain forest or jungles and move villages etc. into those areas, man is coming into contact with many viruses that are not known to us. Many times those viruses are present in certain animals that are hosts & that ultimately puts those individuals at risk for exposure.

Some experts contend we have multiple other viruses out there that are not known to us at this time that we will start to see as man continues to encroach & build villages in those jungles.

That's just what was predicted at a conference, it must have been 20 years ago. NG

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I didn't read the whole thread so I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything or missing current convo. I wanted to post this from MSF's fb today. Very, very serious.

Money and Words Not Enough to Stop Ebola

After visiting Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia, MSF International President Dr. Joanne Liu writes in Time: Entire families are being wiped out. Health workers are dying by the dozens. The Ebola outbreak raging in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone has already killed more people than any other in history, and it continues to spread unabated. And the death toll is being exacerbated by an emergency unfolding within an emergency.

http://time.com/3154326/1400-are-dead-from-ebola-and-we-need-help-says-doctors-without-borders-presi...

[foundinlv]

On 8/21/2014 ------ said:

I didn't read the whole thread so I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything or missing current convo. I wanted to post this from MSF's fb today. Very, very serious.

Money and Words Not Enough to Stop Ebola

After visiting Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia, MSF International President Dr. Joanne Liu writes in Time: Entire families are being wiped out. Health workers are dying by the dozens. The Ebola outbreak raging in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone has already killed more people than any other in history, and it continues to spread unabated. And the death toll is being exacerbated by an emergency unfolding within an emergency.

http://time.com/3154326/1400-are-dead-from-ebola-and-we-need-help-says-doctors-without-borders-presi...

How terrible!

[foundinlv]

I wonder if Dr Brantly will go back since he supposedly cannot get Ebola again although I wonder how many strains are out there now...