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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

On 3/31/2015 CrazyDaisy said:
On 3/31/2015 muttmom said:

Should a pilot suffering from any illness, whether or not controlled by medication, be able to fly?

Singling out one occupation is a slippery slope. What about bus drivers or truck drivers? Should teachers and health care providers be able to work?

Because 130+ were killed does this incident carry more weight than if a school driver were mentally ill? (whatever that means)

Have to agree. From the posts here it seems that everyone who is "mentally ill" need to be removed from society so they will not hurt anyone.

Please show me where anybody said that?

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

On 3/31/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/31/2015 CrazyDaisy said:
On 3/31/2015 muttmom said:

Should a pilot suffering from any illness, whether or not controlled by medication, be able to fly?

Singling out one occupation is a slippery slope. What about bus drivers or truck drivers? Should teachers and health care providers be able to work?

Because 130+ were killed does this incident carry more weight than if a school driver were mentally ill? (whatever that means)

Have to agree. From the posts here it seems that everyone who is "mentally ill" need to be removed from society so they will not hurt anyone.

Please show me where anybody said that?

I used the word seems not stated.

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

On 3/31/2015 CrazyDaisy said:
On 3/31/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/31/2015 CrazyDaisy said:
On 3/31/2015 muttmom said:

Should a pilot suffering from any illness, whether or not controlled by medication, be able to fly?

Singling out one occupation is a slippery slope. What about bus drivers or truck drivers? Should teachers and health care providers be able to work?

Because 130+ were killed does this incident carry more weight than if a school driver were mentally ill? (whatever that means)

Have to agree. From the posts here it seems that everyone who is "mentally ill" need to be removed from society so they will not hurt anyone.

Please show me where anybody said that?

I used the word seems not stated.

Then it was a mischaracterization of what has been said. Nobody indicated that anyone who is mentally ill needs to be removed from society in general.

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

On 3/31/2015 CrazyDaisy said:

Ok I get it, no real answer. Just a knee jerk reaction to the current new story.

Umm, hardly scroll back, I mentioned other areas as well. I will not apologize for what looks a major lapse in screening for this tragedy. No need to get offended.

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

Yes.

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

On 3/31/2015 beammeupscottie said:

Then it was a mischaracterization of what has been said. Nobody indicated that anyone who is mentally ill needs to be removed from society in general.

I don't see it either, yet I got 'scolded', lol.

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

On 3/31/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/31/2015 CrazyDaisy said:
On 3/31/2015 beammeupscottie said:
On 3/31/2015 CrazyDaisy said:
On 3/31/2015 muttmom said:

Should a pilot suffering from any illness, whether or not controlled by medication, be able to fly?

Singling out one occupation is a slippery slope. What about bus drivers or truck drivers? Should teachers and health care providers be able to work?

Because 130+ were killed does this incident carry more weight than if a school driver were mentally ill? (whatever that means)

Have to agree. From the posts here it seems that everyone who is "mentally ill" need to be removed from society so they will not hurt anyone.

Please show me where anybody said that?

I used the word seems not stated.

Then it was a mischaracterization of what has been said. Nobody indicated that anyone who is mentally ill needs to be removed from society in general.

That may be what your impression of the discussion is, however that is not the impression I got from some of the comments.

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

On 3/31/2015 SydneyH said:
On 3/31/2015 CrazyDaisy said:

Ok I get it, no real answer. Just a knee jerk reaction to the current new story.

Umm, hardly scroll back, I mentioned other areas as well. I will not apologize for what looks a major lapse in screening for this tragedy. No need to get offended.

Never said you had to apologize, I am just concerned by the generalizations being made concerning those who may be diagnosed with a "mental illness". There are many productive people in all walks of life in all professions who are dealing with many mental issues.

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

This pilot had the means, the health insurance, the money to seek mental health treatment. He received treatment.

He didn't follow his recommendations from his mental health advisor.

149 people slammed into a mountain because of this.

He was at the helm of a huge missile that contained all those lives. Imagine if he did this over a large populated city! More lives on the ground could've been at risk.

It's happened before with the Egyptian pilot. He took over 200 lives with him.

Pilot suicide. Once a decade is too frequent for me.

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Re: Do you think a pilot that has a mental illness should lose his job?

Generally speaking? No. There are millions in the USA that have a mental illness, and a large percentage of them are treated and living happy and successful lives. I include myself in those numbers and am not ashamed/embarrassed or apologetic to admit it. I take regular medications/have regular visits with my doctor and as I have said on this and other forums many times: "I will always consider myself as recovering, but never will I say I am cured".

How about Bus Drivers/Subway Operators/Train Engineers? I could go on and on. All mental illnesses ARE NOT the same, just like all knee injuries are not the same. Has to be decided on an individual basis and evaluated by those trained to do so,

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