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I always steel myself when going out in public. I have to accept that the world is full of different people who may not share my sensibilities.

I'm not surprised at the fact that men go shirtless at NASCAR. If it were the opera, I'd be surprised.

What semi-bothers me is that people think this is a new phenom. Another indication of the fall of society. As long as i've been alive, no shirts, no shoes, no service has been the norm. I assume that is because there are many people who are barefoot and shirtless in public. I just don't look at them and thank goodness I'm not with them.

I can't imagine judging people's appearances while in church. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of church?

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I guess to save her soul I"ll accept her dripping hair from the back of her seat on my shoes.

Ok, to use a blow dryer though

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Re: Dignity & Decorum

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I disagree with anyone who suggests that it's a good idea to confront someone at such venues.  Alcohol encourages rage.I wouldn't approach anyone anywhere about something like this.

 

Also, why the many references to being overweight? Aren't we supposed to be past that?


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I've never linked dignity and decorum with NASCAR.

 

 

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LOL...I went with my parents many times as a kid. It's always been that way. 

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DH would never even entertain the idea.  Last summer saw a woman at the local grocery store.about 50 average build had on white capris like tissue paper. Had on undies with bright pink polka dots plus black lettering across the back end. I didn't stare long enough to read it. My atttention was diverted to the electronic ankle moniter she had on. I would have been mortified and worn jeans no matter how hot it was.

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@CalminHeart wrote:

No need to body shame.  Not everyone is perfect.  

 

I also don't understand why men go shirtless or wear tank tops.  


@CalminHeart, In all fairness I didn't body shame anyone.  I shared an experience I had at an event that 250,000 (1/4 million) people were attending.  I didn't take and post pictures, I didn't name names.  I didn't drive by someone's home and make fun of them while hanging in their front yard.

 

These men went to a very public, televised, event and chose to disrespect themselve's, and disrespect all those around them by showing up looking nasty and exposing all of us to what they chose to wear (or, more accurately, not wear).

 

When my daughter was about 16 or 17 she started running with a pretty rough crowd.  Telling a teenage daughter she wasn't allowed to hang with these people would only make matters worse and push her further towards them.  So I just sat her down, and talked to her (without bringing up her new "friends") about how decent people don't generally bring shady folks up to a higher level, but lowlifes certainly can and will bring good people down.  She chewed on that for about a month and decided maybe the "friends" she was hanging with weren't really for her.  Phew.

 

My point is, as a society, the more we accept poor behavior, (from foul language easily rolling off tongues in public with kids around, to obscene tee shirts, to half undressed people in public, etc, etc.), the more of it we'll be exposed to and expected to accept.  Sorry, this gal ain't buyin' it and certainly not going to make excuses for it.  LuLu

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Disgusting...but the public seems so “casual” now that show self-respect seems to be a thing of the past...the women who go out in public in house slippers or pajama pants is another example....or shirts that show all of their bra...The examples are everywhere you look. Those men that go shirtless also usually have nasty feet and wear sandals for all to see.
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This obnoxious behavior isn’t restricted to Daytona. Going to college or pro football games is also a challenge for me. I had a huge tumbler of beer poured down my back last fall by the guy sitting behind me...he thought it was hilarious. I don’t drink. Was not amused! The profanity is offensive to me...but seems like I am the only one who doesn’t like it. I was taught manners and to show courtesy towards others when I was growing up....a lost art of parenting, I fear.
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Re: Dignity & Decorum

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@Its Me LuLuBelle2 wrote:

@CalminHeart wrote:

No need to body shame.  Not everyone is perfect.  

 

I also don't understand why men go shirtless or wear tank tops.  


@CalminHeart, In all fairness I didn't body shame anyone.  I shared an experience I had at an event that 250,000 (1/4 million) people were attending.  I didn't take and post pictures, I didn't name names.  I didn't drive by someone's home and make fun of them while hanging in their front yard.

 

These men went to a very public, televised, event and chose to disrespect themselve's, and disrespect all those around them by showing up looking nasty and exposing all of us to what they chose to wear (or, more accurately, not wear).

 

When my daughter was about 16 or 17 she started running with a pretty rough crowd.  Telling a teenage daughter she wasn't allowed to hang with these people would only make matters worse and push her further towards them.  So I just sat her down, and talked to her (without bringing up her new "friends") about how decent people don't generally bring shady folks up to a higher level, but lowlifes certainly can and will bring good people down.  She chewed on that for about a month and decided maybe the "friends" she was hanging with weren't really for her.  Phew.

 

My point is, as a society, the more we accept poor behavior, (from foul language easily rolling off tongues in public with kids around, to obscene tee shirts, to half undressed people in public, etc, etc.), the more of it we'll be exposed to and expected to accept.  Sorry, this gal ain't buyin' it and certainly not going to make excuses for it.  LuLu


Could this be what is termed "normalization"?