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[KatieB]

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@liliblu wrote:

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

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@Spurt wrote:

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 wrote:

I went to the CDC website and read the guidelines.  The words, if feasible, consider etc. appear alot.  A bunch of wishy-washy language.

There is a lot of room to get out of what they should do to keep their workers safe.

I don't  think anyone is truly looking out for those workers.

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 

That's why I kept asking the question....WHERE'S THE UNION, arent they supposed to look out for the workers??????????????????

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My guess is counting all of their money. 

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There has been a concerted effort by big business and some law makers to weaken Unions and union protections.  It's happening in the public and private sector.  That's why we have "right to work" states.  Which simply means you have the right to work in unsafe conditions with less pay and fewer benefits.

We have had right to work states for as long as I can remember.. That is nothing new.  Don't try to blame law makers, unions, etc..   My state was a right to work state in 1966 when I got my first job. It became a right to work state in 1947...

And being a right to work state mean that employees are entitled to work in unionized workplaces without actually joining the union or paying regular union dues.

And it means they make more money, not less.  I worked for a trucking company back in the 1970's.  We had a union, a Teamsters Union.   I never joined the union.  I didn't have to join to take advantage of union benefits and they were better than benefits you would find anywhere else (along with the pay)..  

 @liliblu 

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[wishmoon]

Some ppl in high places have made a deal w/the devil.Remember hearing, "Only _______ (# of victims)," we're so good. We're supposed to get used to this. Don't forget, anyone reporting problems out of the meat plants won't be believed since "whistle-blowers" are now considered liars.

Nobody is following the phases assigned by the COVID Task Team before opening up their states. I could be very wrong, and hope I am but doubtful any of this will end well for the sake of our nation or for that matter, humanity.

[Caligurll]

I really thought nothing could surprise anymore, and then this.

As bad as reopening is IMO, I am horrified that appranetly no one will be held legally responsible for the workers' health.  Not surprised that some people don't care, but horrified and surprised this is going to be allowed to happen.

RIP, slaughterhouse workers.

[golding76]

Unparalled heartlessness and ruthlessness.  

[liliblu]

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@KatieB wrote:

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@liliblu wrote:

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

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@Spurt wrote:

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 wrote:

I went to the CDC website and read the guidelines.  The words, if feasible, consider etc. appear alot.  A bunch of wishy-washy language.

There is a lot of room to get out of what they should do to keep their workers safe.

I don't  think anyone is truly looking out for those workers.

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 

That's why I kept asking the question....WHERE'S THE UNION, arent they supposed to look out for the workers??????????????????

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My guess is counting all of their money. 

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There has been a concerted effort by big business and some law makers to weaken Unions and union protections.  It's happening in the public and private sector.  That's why we have "right to work" states.  Which simply means you have the right to work in unsafe conditions with less pay and fewer benefits.

We have had right to work states for as long as I can remember.. That is nothing new.  Don't try to blame law makers, unions, etc..   My state was a right to work state in 1966 when I got my first job. It became a right to work state in 1947...

And being a right to work state mean that employees are entitled to work in unionized workplaces without actually joining the union or paying regular union dues.

And it means they make more money, not less.  I worked for a trucking company back in the 1970's.  We had a union, a Teamsters Union.   I never joined the union.  I didn't have to join to take advantage of union benefits and they were better than benefits you would find anywhere else (along with the pay)..  

 @liliblu 

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@KatieB wrote:

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@liliblu wrote:

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

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@Spurt wrote:

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 wrote:

I went to the CDC website and read the guidelines.  The words, if feasible, consider etc. appear alot.  A bunch of wishy-washy language.

There is a lot of room to get out of what they should do to keep their workers safe.

I don't  think anyone is truly looking out for those workers.

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 

That's why I kept asking the question....WHERE'S THE UNION, arent they supposed to look out for the workers??????????????????

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My guess is counting all of their money. 

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There has been a concerted effort by big business and some law makers to weaken Unions and union protections.  It's happening in the public and private sector.  That's why we have "right to work" states.  Which simply means you have the right to work in unsafe conditions with less pay and fewer benefits.

We have had right to work states for as long as I can remember.. That is nothing new.  Don't try to blame law makers, unions, etc..   My state was a right to work state in 1966 when I got my first job. It became a right to work state in 1947...

And being a right to work state mean that employees are entitled to work in unionized workplaces without actually joining the union or paying regular union dues.

And it means they make more money, not less.  I worked for a trucking company back in the 1970's.  We had a union, a Teamsters Union.   I never joined the union.  I didn't have to join to take advantage of union benefits and they were better than benefits you would find anywhere else (along with the pay)..  

 @liliblu 

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When you work in a unionized workplace but don't join the union I have questions.  The union fights for better working conditions and benefits and the non-union member benefits.  Should those who decide not to pay union dues not receive any of the benefits that the union has fought for?  Should you work for less pay?  My brother is a Teamster and it's a great union.  They really fight for their members.  Why would anyone want to reap all the benefits but not contribute?

[chessylady]

The stock ( no pun intended) answer is" If you don't like your job, find another one." That no longer works with mass unemployment. Persons who entered the country illegally to do dangerous work that most Americans don't want have a right to life and a safe work place. They are not subhuman.

[cosmic1]

I hope they are being careful not to contaminate the meat products.

[liliblu]

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@cosmic1 wrote:
I hope they are being careful not to contaminate the meat products.

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How is that possible without the appropriate protective equipment?

[MorningLover]

 Our nation’s meat and poultry processing facilities play an integral role in the continuity of our food supply chain,” said U.S. Secretary of Agriculture. “Maintaining the health and safety of these heroic employees in order to ensure that these critical facilities can continue operating is paramount. I also want to thank the companies who are doing their best to keep their workforce safe as well as keeping our food supply sustained. USDA will continue to work with its partners across the federal government to ensure employee safety to maintain this essential industry.”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) of the Department of Health and Human Services and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) of the Department of Labor have put out guidance for plants to implement to help ensure employee safety to reopen plants or to continue to operate those still open. Under the Executive Order and the authority of the Defense Production Act, USDA will work with meat processing to affirm they will operate in accordance with the CDC and OSHA guidance, and then work with state and local officials to ensure that these plants are allowed to operate to produce the meat protein that Americans need. USDA will continue to work with the CDC, OSHA, FDA, and state and local officials to ensure that facilities implementing this guidance to keep employees safe can continue operating.

~usda 

[KatieB]

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@liliblu wrote:

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@KatieB wrote:

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@liliblu wrote:

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

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@Spurt wrote:

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 wrote:

I went to the CDC website and read the guidelines.  The words, if feasible, consider etc. appear alot.  A bunch of wishy-washy language.

There is a lot of room to get out of what they should do to keep their workers safe.

I don't  think anyone is truly looking out for those workers.

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 

That's why I kept asking the question....WHERE'S THE UNION, arent they supposed to look out for the workers??????????????????

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My guess is counting all of their money. 

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There has been a concerted effort by big business and some law makers to weaken Unions and union protections.  It's happening in the public and private sector.  That's why we have "right to work" states.  Which simply means you have the right to work in unsafe conditions with less pay and fewer benefits.

We have had right to work states for as long as I can remember.. That is nothing new.  Don't try to blame law makers, unions, etc..   My state was a right to work state in 1966 when I got my first job. It became a right to work state in 1947...

And being a right to work state mean that employees are entitled to work in unionized workplaces without actually joining the union or paying regular union dues.

And it means they make more money, not less.  I worked for a trucking company back in the 1970's.  We had a union, a Teamsters Union.   I never joined the union.  I didn't have to join to take advantage of union benefits and they were better than benefits you would find anywhere else (along with the pay)..  

 @liliblu 

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@KatieB wrote:

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@liliblu wrote:

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

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@Spurt wrote:

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 wrote:

I went to the CDC website and read the guidelines.  The words, if feasible, consider etc. appear alot.  A bunch of wishy-washy language.

There is a lot of room to get out of what they should do to keep their workers safe.

I don't  think anyone is truly looking out for those workers.

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 

That's why I kept asking the question....WHERE'S THE UNION, arent they supposed to look out for the workers??????????????????

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My guess is counting all of their money. 

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There has been a concerted effort by big business and some law makers to weaken Unions and union protections.  It's happening in the public and private sector.  That's why we have "right to work" states.  Which simply means you have the right to work in unsafe conditions with less pay and fewer benefits.

We have had right to work states for as long as I can remember.. That is nothing new.  Don't try to blame law makers, unions, etc..   My state was a right to work state in 1966 when I got my first job. It became a right to work state in 1947...

And being a right to work state mean that employees are entitled to work in unionized workplaces without actually joining the union or paying regular union dues.

And it means they make more money, not less.  I worked for a trucking company back in the 1970's.  We had a union, a Teamsters Union.   I never joined the union.  I didn't have to join to take advantage of union benefits and they were better than benefits you would find anywhere else (along with the pay)..  

 @liliblu 

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When you work in a unionized workplace but don't join the union I have questions.  The union fights for better working conditions and benefits and the non-union member benefits.  Should those who decide not to pay union dues not receive any of the benefits that the union has fought for?  Should you work for less pay?  My brother is a Teamster and it's a great union.  They really fight for their members.  Why would anyone want to reap all the benefits but not contribute?

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That was almost 50 years ago and I don't remember why I didn't join...  They did not pressure you to join.  but I did feel like I had join them when they went out on strike.