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Covid-19 survives in air for 3 hours

Well, the above says it all.  This is what was recently reported by WHO.    This is a tough situation for all.

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That is very bad news.

 

Once again, I'm feeling very On the Beach-y (referring to that doomsday film from 1959).

 

Strike up "Waltzing Matilda."

 

I'm not joshing -- really.  

 

"Waltzing Matilda"  -- On the Beach

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9sIPJ-yGjc

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Re: Covid-19 survives in air for 3 hours

Provide the data from WHO. Spreading statements without backup is not helpful.

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@camelot wrote:

Provide the data from WHO. Spreading statements without backup is not helpful.


Google it yourself. I'm sure you will find it.

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I did and couldn't find it.

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And once again, let's provide a little (unwelcome) context:

 

There are two ways a coronavirus can be transmitted via air.

In droplet form, the coronavirus is airborne for a few seconds after someone sneezes or coughs. It’s able to travel only a short distance before gravitational forces pull it down. Someone close enough for the virus particles to reach in that brief period can therefore be infected.

 

An aerosol is a wholly different physical state: Particles are held in the air by physical and chemical forces. Fog is an aerosol; water droplets are suspended in air. The suspended particles remain for hours or more, depending on factors such as heat and humidity. If virus particles, probably on droplets of mucus or saliva, can be suspended in air for more than a few seconds, as the measles virus can, then anyone passing through that pathogenic cloud could become infected.

 

There are strong reasons to doubt that the new coronavirus has anything close to that capability.

 

“If it could easily exist as an aerosol, we would be seeing much greater levels of transmission,” said epidemiologist Michael LeVasseur of Drexel University. 

 

The studies suggesting that it can be aerosolized are only preliminary, and other research contradicts it, finding no aerosolized coronavirus particles in the hospital rooms of Covid-19 patients.

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@camelot wrote:

I did and couldn't find it.


I posted the study here on the forum. It's the ONLY study using actual COVID-19. The study was conducted with the NIH. 


@camelot "New research out of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) finds that the novel coronavirus HCoV-19 (SARS-2) causing the COVID-19 pandemic can survive for days on plastic and stainless steel and even lasts up to a full day on a cardboard surface.

“We found that viable virus could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel,” reads a new study posted online Friday.

This is actually much better than some previous predictions that the virus could last for over a week on surfaces.

The new study was led by researchers from an NIH virology lab in Montana and Princeton University.

It’s important to note that the research is a pre-print draft that has not yet been peer-reviewed. Think of it as a first draft. Typically, pre-print medical research will not be put into practice until after it is reviewed, but given the rapidly emerging nature of COVID-19, it seems prudent to share the latest data with the caveat that it may change as more research is conducted and reviewed in the near future.

We found that viable virus could be detected... up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel

- NIH-led study submitted to the New England Journal of Medicine*

What the new study found is that surfaces made of stainless steel and polypropylene, which is used in a wide variety of product packaging and labeling as well as a number of household items, medical supplies and even clothing, seem to be particularly friendly to the novel coronavirus.

The virus’ ability to hang around on cardboard is three times that of a different coronavirus that caused an outbreak of SARS in 2002 and 2003, which was seen to last only about eight hours on the popular packaging material.

However, the researchers caution that their results for cardboard were “noticeably noisier” than other surfaces tested, “so we advise caution in interpreting this result.”

Conversely, the new coronavirus does not last long on copper. All traces of it were gone after just four hours on the conductive metal.

Some key context with these results: although the virus survived different durations on different materials, its concentration was greatly reduced. Researchers estimate that the half-life of the virus is around thirteen hours on steel and sixteen hours on plastic.

Another thing to consider is that the experiments were done using stable surfaces that were maintained at room temperature and moderate humidity. Your cardboard box from Amazon goes through a much more harsh environment on its way to your doorstep.

That said, if your delivery person is coughing all over that box on the way to your doorstep, there may be reason for concern.

This new data only reiterates what we’re all being told already: do what you can to disinfect surfaces frequently and wash your hands even more frequently after coming in contact with surfaces, especially suspect steel and plastic."

 

Quoted From Forbes online.   "New Coronavirus Study Shows How Long HCoV-19 Survives On Different Surfaces" by Eric Mack.

 

 

 

*This is coming from a PREPRINT of the study. 

 
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This poster Snoop, shouldn't be spreading fear with statements that aren't backed with studies. 

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There is an article I just read in the New York Post by this WHO organization that says "it can remain suspended in the air for 3 hours."

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/who-recommends-airborne-precautions-after-coronavirus-found-to-survive...

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@camelot wrote:

This poster Snoop, shouldn't be spreading fear with statements that aren't backed with studies. 


Snoop's post is based on new research from the a National Institute of Health. Snoop is not spreading fear. Snoop is informing people so they can utilize the information to help them stay safe.