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[SahmIam]

@hsawaknow  I think it is but since the sicko is now dead...it will depend if he was associated with any group.

Add in the additional shooting of the cops responding to a FAKE suicide call in Texas.... I'm so done with this.

[dex]

I think it is time to start enforcing the law with some shame thrown in for the crimes that seem to be occuring more often by people who don't seem to have any respect for authority.I remember growing up that my mom always told us to follow the law and to not bring shame on the family.I don't think many have shame these days but I know that it definately played a role in keeping my behavior in check.A little shame on the family was not acceptable then.

[Noel7]

I don't think shaming a family is right.  Children and siblings should not have to have their lives ruined, and we can't assume all parents are to blame.

People like this guy should never get out of jail.

Listening to our local CBS news just minutes ago, there was a report of shooting after shooting after shooting after shooting in the Bay Area today.  Something is terribly wrong in our society.

[Noel7]

This incident is so disturbing, shooting at everyone in that area and targeting police officers.  Terrible.

We had a shooting in another city the other day.  They missed the target but shot a nearby 16 month old baby and his mother.

[hckynut]

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@hsawaknow wrote:

I read somewhere that the suspect {now dead} handed someone a hate filled rambling  letter. I'm wondering why this isn't being labeled as a hate crime?

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@hsawaknow

Not being labeled a hate crime? I didn't have to think even a couple seconds for that answer. Think and it shall come to you.

hckynut(john)

[hckynut]

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@dex wrote:

I think it is time to start enforcing the law with some shame thrown in for the crimes that seem to be occuring more often by people who don't seem to have any respect for authority.I remember growing up that my mom always told us to follow the law and to not bring shame on the family.I don't think many have shame these days but I know that it definately played a role in keeping my behavior in check.A little shame on the family was not acceptable then.

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@dex

While I totally agree with what you have said, look how many in our country, in this era of time, do not have a family. A disproportionate number are now raised in 1 parent households (as was I ).

Children raised in single parent households has doubled since 1960, I just looked up that stat. And boys born and raised without a father, you can check those stats, and they are not good.

hckynut(john)

[Desertdi]

My grandpa was "supposedly" a gangster............but the worst thing I do is exceed the speed limit (which everybody else in AZ also does).

[dex]

@hckynut My mom was also a single parent who worked full time but still managed to do it all...not many like her anymore.

[bonnielu]

Of course this was a hate crime.  It certainly was not done out of love and respect.  

And  if the police shoot back in defense, perish the thought,  the media picks it up and it is labeled as some sort of discriminatory action.  

[sidsmom]

The FBI identifies a Hate Crime to be:

"A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” 

The shooter didn't appear to target any particular group nor profession.