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[sidsmom]

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@Bri36 wrote:

@She sent out a tweet, @sidsmom

I just saw it 

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Saw it.

IDK....if I was her manager, I would've crafted a more official,

'mature' tweet....especially of the severity of the incident. 

[Puzzle Piece]

Truly tragic.

I understand that the crowd was very young - in their young teens. 

The parent must be hysterical.  

[BettyNewbie]

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@Bri36 wrote:

@She sent out a tweet, @sidsmom

I just saw it 

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Saw it.

IDK....if I was her manager, I would've crafted a more official,

'mature' tweet....especially of the severity of the incident. 

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Her manager, Scooter Braun, just released a more professional statement.....glad he did

[I am still oxox]

[SahmIam]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Age does not make one person's life more valuable than another's. It's shameful to go on and on about the victims being teens as though, had they been middle aged, it would be less of a tragedy.

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A close friend of mine who grew up as a violent gang member and then took a turn down a very different path said this last night regarding comments like yours he saw on social media:

" There was a code among gangs, among anyone who lived a violent life: you leave the young ones alone and you leave the elders alone while everyone else was fair game. Why? Because the young ones are innocent and the old ones have paid their due. Today, s*** has no honor, no code. They kill because they are cowards, because they are brainwashed, because they s***". 

The reason many say it's horrible about them being young is the sense of innocence has been removed from children today. They have a whole life to learn the bitter truths of many aspects of life. Childhood and teenhood is supposed to allow a person the time to be free from those responsibilities, those horrors of life; we don't want kids to experience danger, we don't want them to grow up in fear. As adults, we have the ability (or should have) to deal with all situations because of the years of experience under our belt. 

It's a tragedy no matter what the ages of those killed and injured. The fact that young children and teens were targeted just hits most people as disgusting/not right/crossing the line...... I can't explain it any better than that. Sorry.

[SahmIam]

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@Maudelyn wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Just saw a video on MSMBC of the total disregard of some for the welfare of others. Climbing over people, stepping on them, disgusting.

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This is what happens when people are running for their lives. It is not intentional disregard for others, it is primal self preservation.

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Bingo. If I was there with my children, I would't be saying "oh excuse me please. No, YOU go first."

Um...no. 

[goldensrbest]

Sad that  a person can kill,and hurt so many .

[QueenDanceALot]

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

If that selfish behavior of some is excusable, even acceptable, under the circumstances then why were others behaving civilized with concern for others?

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Have you not heard of tramplings here during the Black Friday sales?

I have a hard time believing you were unaware of this behavior as a basic panic reaction.

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We also have heard stories of others shielding people in mass shooting situations while others run.  

But they are the exceptions to the rule, I understand that.  I do hope I wouldn't run over a woman in a wheelchair or just push her aside while I run, but I don't really know what I would do.

[SahmIam]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

If that selfish behavior of some is excusable, even acceptable, under the circumstances then why were others behaving civilized with concern for others?

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Have you not heard of tramplings here during the Black Friday sales?

I have a hard time believing you were unaware of this behavior as a basic panic reaction.

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We also have heard stories of others shielding people in mass shooting situations while others run.  

But they are the exceptions to the rule, I understand that.  I do hope I wouldn't run over a woman in a wheelchair or just push her aside while I run, but I don't really know what I would do.

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Very honest reply.

It's easy to proclaim "Oh, I would never do this or that" but until you are faced with the situation....you just never know. I hope none of us EVER have to face a situation such as this. 

[Maudelyn]

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@SahmIam wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

Age does not make one person's life more valuable than another's. It's shameful to go on and on about the victims being teens as though, had they been middle aged, it would be less of a tragedy.

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A close friend of mine who grew up as a violent gang member and then took a turn down a very different path said this last night regarding comments like yours he saw on social media:

" There was a code among gangs, among anyone who lived a violent life: you leave the young ones alone and you leave the elders alone while everyone else was fair game. Why? Because the young ones are innocent and the old ones have paid their due. Today, s*** has no honor, no code. They kill because they are cowards, because they are brainwashed, because they s***". 

The reason many say it's horrible about them being young is the sense of innocence has been removed from children today. They have a whole life to learn the bitter truths of many aspects of life. Childhood and teenhood is supposed to allow a person the time to be free from those responsibilities, those horrors of life; we don't want kids to experience danger, we don't want them to grow up in fear. As adults, we have the ability (or should have) to deal with all situations because of the years of experience under our belt. 

It's a tragedy no matter what the ages of those killed and injured. The fact that young children and teens were targeted just hits most people as disgusting/not right/crossing the line...... I can't explain it any better than that. Sorry.

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Your explanation is right on!  Beautifully said.