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Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@terrier3 wrote:
@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

Are you asking about this particular situation? Oh, she already was on welfare. She would not go over a certain amount of hours a week so she could keep her food stamps and she lived in HUD housing. If we are talking about this particular situation I would prefer she use the Medicaid she was given to buy an effective birth control for herself and not use abortion as birth control. I would feel that way even if taxpayers weren't paying for it.

I also think it is outrageous that someone would ask the question well would you prefer she quit her job and go on welfare? Why are you putting it on me or another tax payer and threatening she would have to quit her job if she doesn't get a tax payer funded abortion? I know in NYS there are SO many programs to get free birth control even if one does not have medicaid or any other type of insurance and if all of that fails and an accident happens there is also emergency contraception and without insurance you can get one for about $20. I know you can get that publicly funded too.

I know I had to wait about a month or so before my Depo shot started working so I had make other arrangements in the mean time. I know it sounds crazy but if I was out of those options, could not get to the store and my partner didn't have anything on him. I waited until I coudl get some!!!

I guess if it came down to it the option of adoption is always there too.

I would like to see more situations where the education points to this as being the responsibility of the person that needs the abortion but absolutely cannot have one unless it is tax payer funded. That is where the responsibility lies. I didn't have insurance for myself, only my daughter and I had a lot of friends in the same boat financially both single and married and we managed not to get pregnant by either paying for BC by ourselves, using the services of PP for help with the costs of BC or waiting until we were protected and could because we knew we could not take care of more than we were now.

Irish -

Not everyone makes good choices. Sounds like your fellow employee made a lot of bad ones.

Which is why you are where you are today - and she's not.

I still would prefer to pay, as a NY State taxpayer, for 3 terminations rather than three live births to an irresponsible mother. A baby shouldn't be some kind of penance for making bad decisions or acting irresponsibly, IMO. Of course I would prefer if she went on long term BC, but it's a free country and people are free to make stupid choices.

Anyone who kept down her hours to get food stamps (minimal for people who work at all) and live in a subsidized project isn't very smart. That reminds me of the people who won't make more than a certain amount of money because they don't want to move into a higher tax bracket. Many people who have told me this (commissioned salespeople) don't realize that the higher percentage is only paid on the higher income - not their entire salary.

I would rather be like us - smart women who have worked hard and deserve the good things we have created in our lives. I feel badly about the others, but it's their choice!

And taxpayers should be free from taking the responsibility the stupid decision maker doesn't.

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

@occasionalrain wrote:
PP is not just for poor women, anyone can use their services.

Adding - yes there are wonderful bennies there. As a clinic that specializes in reproductive services, they have excellent providers on all levels. Most are affiliated with universities.

Many PP clinics do not even offer terminations. At all.

Irshgrl31201 · ‎03-18-2010

I was going to come back and respond after the show but my mom just called me and is having a lot of blood in her urine and lots of pain.

She thinks I am overreacting because I want to take her to the ER and is giving me a hard time about going.. I don't think I am overreacting at all especially because it came on suddenly and she is in pain. Do you ladies think I am overreacting? Anyway, I am leaving now but wanted to let you know I am not ignoring any of your responses.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
JFK

Maudelynn · ‎05-08-2015

Chase Bank tweeted that the incident was not at Chase. I think that says it all.

You have sacrificed nothing and no one.

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

@Irshgrl31201 wrote:
I was going to come back and respond after the show but my mom just called me and is having a lot of blood in her urine and lots of pain.

She thinks I am overreacting because I want to take her to the ER and is giving me a hard time about going.. I don't think I am overreacting at all especially because it came on suddenly and she is in pain. Do you ladies think I am overreacting? Anyway, I am leaving now but wanted to let you know I am not ignoring any of your responses.

Sounds like a classic UTI. The faster she gets antibiotics, the better. It's scary, I know (I've had it in the past.)

Thanks for your comments.

Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@occasionalrain wrote:
I'm concerned about overpopulation, our environment, the growing problem of insufficient water. I find those wishing to force women to carry and deliver unwanted children deplorable.

Virtually No woman in this nation needs to find themselves carrying and unwanted child. Today's birth control is both highly effective and free to most, cheap for others.

They wanted the act that created the child, they need to want the results.

terrier3 · ‎03-10-2010

@Mominohio wrote:
@occasionalrain wrote:
I'm concerned about overpopulation, our environment, the growing problem of insufficient water. I find those wishing to force women to carry and deliver unwanted children deplorable.
Virtually No woman in this nation needs to find themselves carrying and unwanted child. Today's birth control is both highly effective and free to most, cheap for others.

They wanted the act that created the child, they need to want the results.

Same can be said about the Baby Daddy too.

occasionalrain · ‎03-10-2010

So we have children born to junkies, neglected, abused...and that is preferable to a safe abortion? Really?

Mominohio · ‎08-08-2010

@terrier3 wrote:
@nomless wrote:
There are many assistance programs. Including child care.
Not true.

It sounds rosy, but it isn't.

Yes, this is true. I have worked in social programs, worked with women who work the system for every thing they can get, and while benefits vary from state to state, there is child care out there, and plentiful in many places.

It is so available, I know one young woman who was able to get child care (paid for through welfare programs) during the day while she slept, because she worked third shift (her mom was able to keep the baby overnight, but had to work in the day). The system even understood that she would be a danger to herself and the child if she didn't get some sleep, so they paid daycare for her to sleep.

Lucky Charm · ‎03-09-2010

@terrier3 wrote:
@Lucky Charm wrote:
Posting w/o reading the (hole---yes hole) thread.....

So I guess you have to be 'poor' to access PP's wunnerful bennies?

Regardless....I can't believe that women just put themselves out there. Takes the chance of getting pregnant by a guy....

A.) she does not want to have a baby with

B.) a man she knows won't support her/the baby

I mean, I don't know how she can even enjoy lovemaking, to be honest, if she's worried about getting pregnant.

I'm all for supporting people who are down and out. I'm sure many here can't even tally up how much money we've handed out to people on the street this year alone, plus the charities we give to monthly, and if you pay taxes, you're also helping.

But posters here think that just because a woman *somehow* gets pregnant, we aren't at ToyRus buying her car seats and cribs?

Isn't the woman supposed to think that for herself?
Yes she should think for herself. And if she doesn't want and isn't able to have a child, she should be free to use a legal means to end the pregnancy.

BTW - As a counselor, I deal with many women in committed relationships who get dumped cold if a child enters the picture. Husbands have been known to take off too. It's not just lazy, dumb people who end up with unexpected pregnancies.

Irish bravely let us know that it happened to her.

PP is there for everyone...many pay full price but enjoy the caring, professional treatment they receive there.