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[Maudelynn]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@Maudelynn wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

Part of the problem is also that we do not have child care for those who do opt to keep their babies in this country. We do not assist people once a child is born either the way countries in Europe help their people. Abortion rates are way down in European countries maybe because there are programs set up for women to return to work and enroll their child(ren) in a child care program.

I do not like when certain groups are saying no to abortions but do not want to pay for any assistance to aid the parent to re-enter the workforce if the child is born with either work programs or child care.

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Why should others pay for this? Unwanted pregnancy in this nation should be so very minimul with all the easy and inexpensive access to birth control. 

Where are the men's and women's responsibilities to provide for and take care of their children? They need to take responsibility for what they do, not society as a whole. Why should business, or taxpayers have to foot the bill? 

This is why this nation is broke. Too many people think that the government (aka the taxpayer) should be providing for everyone from cradle to grave. Not sustainable, not economically smart, plain not right.

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All birth control is not 100% effective. Ever hear of the accidental pregnancy even when using birth control? And child care/back to work programs do not pay enough or provide enough services for the parent as they are structured now.

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My post clearly states that it should be minimal. Nothing is 100%, so before one engages in an activity, they should be sure they are ready to handle any and all consequences of that activity. If more people did just that, we wouldn't have much of a discussion going here.

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So we shouldn't help skin cancer victims who suntanned, lung cancer victims who smoked? 

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I believe we aren't too far away from just that. As healthcare costs increase and insurance companies want to preserve their huge profits, we are already seeing something like this on the fringes. There was a post in another thread this week about someone's insurance giving smaller deductibles to those who's medical tests were in line with 'normal levels'. I think maybe it related to something with blood tests. 

Anyway if companies are rewarding good results, it automatically punishes those with not good results. I can foresee the day when it insurance will either deny payment or increase rates/decrease level of coverage to things they deem inappropriate or unhealthy. Smoking, obesity, etc. Only my opinion, but I think it could be seen in the future.

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This is happening now with many health insurance companies.  The one who insured us through my last job required you have a yearly physical and submit all results, including blood work.  You were charged more if you smoked.

However, in speaking about responsibility...we don't turn our backs on those who were irresponsible with their health.  Pregnancy is a health related issue.

[PeterDM]

I just read that there are 13 million abortions a year in China.  In that country, whenever a woman gets pregnant, and already has a child, the government requires her to have an abortion.  It's the law.  So, while many of you may complain that your tax dollars go to fund PP, please keep in mind that you choose to buy products that say Made In China, so you are choosing to finance those abortions.  If you really are opposed to abortion, shouldn't you choose to finish reading this sentence, then toss the electronic device you are reading this on in the trash?  

[Lila Belle]

JMO, but the PP video hoaxes are just a ruse to shore up support and is being used as a wedge issue for candidates who have no real programs or policies for the voters they are trying to "court." After all even Mitt's mom, among many prominently moderate R's who worked tirelessly for PP, was pro-choice.

It seems criminal to me to incite violence just to pander for the evangelical vote. It's even more criminal when you think that 3 innocent people were killed by "pro-lifers" being used as a campaign issue.

Furthermore I'm calling out some of these stories about fraud etc as total bs and a form of subtle bigotry by those afraid of the changes in the power structure that more reflects our country.

[Apple Head]

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

So I am curious-- how is the media 'labeling' him-- as a mentally ill person in possession of a gun or as a homegrown terrorist?

Oh wait, he's both!!

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Anyone, sane or not, who goes into a public place with a gun with the sole intent of hurting and/or killing innocent people is a homegrown terrorist.     

The man knew what he was doing.    He terrorized people and is a murderer.   The police even had guns, and they were killed.   

Another senseless act.

[hckynutjohn]

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@terrier3 wrote:

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

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 It is my opinion that anyone that kills or injures innocent people are messed up in the head. 

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So you think the guys in Paris were "messed up in the head" too?

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I see one as a domestic terrorist that might be missing a few brain cells. Paris? This I see as clear cut Global Terrorism perpetrated by fanatics based on their skewed interpretation of a religion.

They had a distinct mission that most that follow world news events know exactly what that mission intended to do.  Put fear into innocent people going about their normal lives. Did the Paris terrorists accomplish this?

hckynut(john)

[biancardi]

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

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@terrier3 wrote:

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

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 It is my opinion that anyone that kills or injures innocent people are messed up in the head. 

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So you think the guys in Paris were "messed up in the head" too?

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I see one as a domestic terrorist that might be missing a few brain cells. Paris? This I see as clear cut Global Terrorism perpetrated by fanatics based on their skewed interpretation of a religion.

They had a distinct mission that most that follow world news events know exactly what that mission intended to do.  Put fear into innocent people going about their normal lives. Did the Paris terrorists accomplish this?

hckynut(john)

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Actually, what happened in CO is domestic terrorism.  Those groups have been plotting and lying about PP, doctoring tapes, exchanging in hyperbole for YEARS.   It isn't a lone gunman.    These people prey on the weakness of those who are "pro-life" and the disruption that goes on outside of PP is terrorism.  This is not a simple protest.  They firebomb clinics, cars, attack doctors and nurses, stalk them and murder them.  Now, innocent patients are killed along with the police who were trying to protect them.

They have a distinct mission.  They want to do this. 

[biancardi]

oh and yes, the innocent employees and patients of PP DO fear for their lives.  Security is ramped up.  The CO PP is a fairly new building because the old one was lacking in security and this one is described as a "fortress" by those who wish to disrupt the clinic

so, yeah, domestic terrorism by religious fantatics.  We have them here too. Let's call it for what it is.

[SydneyH]

Domestic terrorism?  Religious fanatics?  No reputable news source is using those buzz words.

[sidsmom]

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@SydneyH wrote:

Domestic terrorism?  Religious fanatics?  No reputable news source is using those buzz words.

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ITA.

This afternoon he has his first court appearance, so that should reveal his motive...if it was directed at a particular organization or not.  

Again, at this point no one knows.