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[biancardi]

no and yes.  I don't think he was mentally ill.  I do think, because of his already existing beliefs, the highly charged talk by CF egged this whole sitiation to this point.  CF had an opportunity to retract her words when it was pointed out to her that the tape was doctored.

And the fake "oh we condemn these acts" from the people who made that tape - oh really?  This is what they wanted.  They lied, mislead people, doctored tapes, to stir the pot and fuel an already hysterical population over a legal medical procedure. 

CF ad that company that produced the tape should be held accountable as accomplices to these murders

[Mominohio]

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

Part of the problem is also that we do not have child care for those who do opt to keep their babies in this country. We do not assist people once a child is born either the way countries in Europe help their people. Abortion rates are way down in European countries maybe because there are programs set up for women to return to work and enroll their child(ren) in a child care program.

I do not like when certain groups are saying no to abortions but do not want to pay for any assistance to aid the parent to re-enter the workforce if the child is born with either work programs or child care.

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Why should others pay for this? Unwanted pregnancy in this nation should be so very minimul with all the easy and inexpensive access to birth control. 

Where are the men's and women's responsibilities to provide for and take care of their children? They need to take responsibility for what they do, not society as a whole. Why should business, or taxpayers have to foot the bill? 

This is why this nation is broke. Too many people think that the government (aka the taxpayer) should be providing for everyone from cradle to grave. Not sustainable, not economically smart, plain not right.

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All birth control is not 100% effective. Ever hear of the accidental pregnancy even when using birth control? And child care/back to work programs do not pay enough or provide enough services for the parent as they are structured now.

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My post clearly states that it should be minimal. Nothing is 100%, so before one engages in an activity, they should be sure they are ready to handle any and all consequences of that activity. If more people did just that, we wouldn't have much of a discussion going here.

[terrier3]

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@biancardi wrote:

no and yes.  I don't think he was mentally ill.  I do think, because of his already existing beliefs, the highly charged talk by CF egged this whole sitiation to this point.  CF had an opportunity to retract her words when it was pointed out to her that the tape was doctored.

And the fake "oh we condemn these acts" from the people who made that tape - oh really?  This is what they wanted.  They lied, mislead people, doctored tapes, to stir the pot and fuel an already hysterical population over a legal medical procedure. 

CF ad that company that produced the tape should be held accountable as accomplices to these murders

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After her outrageous statements, CF's numbers went down the tubes.

At least some people can see through her bluster and her lies.

[terrier3]

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@Lucky Charm wrote:

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Oh, I bet more women who can afford a child, choose abortions compared to women who can't.

I know there are statistics out there.  Any one?  I'm not googling that.

Old Killary once said, it should be 'available, affordable, and rare'.  Ha!  RARE!

smh.

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Judgmental?

[Mominohio]

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@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

I'm concerned about overpopulation, our environment, the growing problem of insufficient water. I find those wishing to force women to carry and deliver unwanted children deplorable.  

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No one is forcing women to have unwanted children. 

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Actually they are in some states where new laws have been placed on service providers. When there are only one or two in the state traveling great distances for some is impossible.

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This really takes the cake. I suppose the 'state' or society forced them to get in the situation in the first place.

Those allowing/dismissing other's irresponsibility and thinking the rest of us should pay to end it all or pay for the child for the rest of it's life really need to kick in extra to foot these bills. 

I've been too busy taking care of me and mine, and have no interest in financing other's irresponsibilities. I've had to clean up enough of my own messes in life (and I'm not talking about pregnancies or children, just mistakes made or irresponsible behavior in general), and I expect others to do the same.

[Maudelynn]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

Part of the problem is also that we do not have child care for those who do opt to keep their babies in this country. We do not assist people once a child is born either the way countries in Europe help their people. Abortion rates are way down in European countries maybe because there are programs set up for women to return to work and enroll their child(ren) in a child care program.

I do not like when certain groups are saying no to abortions but do not want to pay for any assistance to aid the parent to re-enter the workforce if the child is born with either work programs or child care.

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Why should others pay for this? Unwanted pregnancy in this nation should be so very minimul with all the easy and inexpensive access to birth control. 

Where are the men's and women's responsibilities to provide for and take care of their children? They need to take responsibility for what they do, not society as a whole. Why should business, or taxpayers have to foot the bill? 

This is why this nation is broke. Too many people think that the government (aka the taxpayer) should be providing for everyone from cradle to grave. Not sustainable, not economically smart, plain not right.

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All birth control is not 100% effective. Ever hear of the accidental pregnancy even when using birth control? And child care/back to work programs do not pay enough or provide enough services for the parent as they are structured now.

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My post clearly states that it should be minimal. Nothing is 100%, so before one engages in an activity, they should be sure they are ready to handle any and all consequences of that activity. If more people did just that, we wouldn't have much of a discussion going here.

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So we shouldn't help skin cancer victims who suntanned, lung cancer victims who smoked? 

[Mominohio]

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@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

I was going to come back and respond after the show but my mom just called me and is having a lot of blood in her urine and lots of pain. 

She thinks I am overreacting because I want to take her to the ER and is giving me a hard time about going.. I don't think I am overreacting at all especially because it came on suddenly and she is in pain. Do you ladies think I am overreacting? Anyway, I am leaving now but wanted to let you know I am not ignoring  any of your responses. 

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Saying a prayer that all is ok with your mom. It is as frightening as having a child ill, when we start to worry about our parent's health. 

[Mominohio]

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@terrier3 wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

I'm concerned about overpopulation, our environment, the growing problem of insufficient water. I find those wishing to force women to carry and deliver unwanted children deplorable.  

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 Virtually No woman in this nation needs to find themselves carrying and unwanted child. Today's birth control is both highly effective and free to most, cheap for others. 

They wanted the act that created the child, they need to want the results.

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Same can be  said about the Baby Daddy too.

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Absolutely agree!

But as a woman, I always knew that I was the one that would bear the most responsibility. I was the one that would carry the child, and it would be easier for him to walk away than it would be for me.

[Mominohio]

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@Maudelynn wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@JustJazzmom wrote:

Part of the problem is also that we do not have child care for those who do opt to keep their babies in this country. We do not assist people once a child is born either the way countries in Europe help their people. Abortion rates are way down in European countries maybe because there are programs set up for women to return to work and enroll their child(ren) in a child care program.

I do not like when certain groups are saying no to abortions but do not want to pay for any assistance to aid the parent to re-enter the workforce if the child is born with either work programs or child care.

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Why should others pay for this? Unwanted pregnancy in this nation should be so very minimul with all the easy and inexpensive access to birth control. 

Where are the men's and women's responsibilities to provide for and take care of their children? They need to take responsibility for what they do, not society as a whole. Why should business, or taxpayers have to foot the bill? 

This is why this nation is broke. Too many people think that the government (aka the taxpayer) should be providing for everyone from cradle to grave. Not sustainable, not economically smart, plain not right.

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All birth control is not 100% effective. Ever hear of the accidental pregnancy even when using birth control? And child care/back to work programs do not pay enough or provide enough services for the parent as they are structured now.

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My post clearly states that it should be minimal. Nothing is 100%, so before one engages in an activity, they should be sure they are ready to handle any and all consequences of that activity. If more people did just that, we wouldn't have much of a discussion going here.

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So we shouldn't help skin cancer victims who suntanned, lung cancer victims who smoked? 

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I believe we aren't too far away from just that. As healthcare costs increase and insurance companies want to preserve their huge profits, we are already seeing something like this on the fringes. There was a post in another thread this week about someone's insurance giving smaller deductibles to those who's medical tests were in line with 'normal levels'. I think maybe it related to something with blood tests. 

Anyway if companies are rewarding good results, it automatically punishes those with not good results. I can foresee the day when it insurance will either deny payment or increase rates/decrease level of coverage to things they deem inappropriate or unhealthy. Smoking, obesity, etc. Only my opinion, but I think it could be seen in the future.