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Re: Cash or Charge in Restaurants

It burns my butt to see these upcharges for using a CC.  I noticed this during the pandemic.  This has always been the cost of doing business and had previously never been overt.  

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Re: Cash or Charge in Restaurants

i would rather have them increase their pricing overall than add that extra cc percentage onto a customers bill. we have a small business and our credit card processing company is trying to get us to do this with our customers. i told them if we nickel and dime them to death we are going to lose our customers over a few dollars.

 

we still go to more restaurants that are NOT doing this than restaurants that are adding the surcharge. i am still using my cards and i leave a cash tip for the server. we ALSO have an added 9% alcohol tax when we are in bars and restaurants. maryland has to make its money also. LOL

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I rarely have cash in my wallet.  If I do, I'm like *OMGosh, I have money!*  I just don't like dealing with it.  Once you spend it, you have to go back and get more.  A credit card is so much easier.

 

But, I befriended someone who owned a boutique and I bought almost all my furniture for this house there.  

 

I asked her upfront, if it costs her money to process credit card payers and she said it did.  So she gave me a nice discount on everything I either ordered or picked out from her shop paying cash.

 

Otherwise, I'll pay using a credit card.

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@sunshine45 wrote:

i would rather have them increase their pricing overall than add that extra cc percentage onto a customers bill. we have a small business and our credit card processing company is trying to get us to do this with our customers. i told them if we nickel and dime them to death we are going to lose our customers over a few dollars.

 

we still go to more restaurants that are NOT doing this than restaurants that are adding the surcharge. i am still using my cards and i leave a cash tip for the server. we ALSO have an added 9% alcohol tax when we are in bars and restaurants. maryland has to make its money also. LOL


@sunshine45  So if you are tipping at a restaurant and have ordered alcohol, you add the 9% on top of your usual tip?  Wow, that can be pricey!  I didn't even know anything about a 9% alcohol tax.  Is it common knowledge?

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One of our longtime favorite restaurants has always been cash only, but now many are going that way.

 

 

 

 The first time I noticed was a sign at another one of our favorite places. They would add 3% if you paid with a card. Down the hallway I saw a new ATM machine, so after we ordered I went to get cash out. Right away I got a notice that I would be charged $3.50 in addition to any fees our bank would charge. Still I had it in my mind to get that cash! I put in my pin and it didn't recognize it. I tried again and still no luck. So I gave up and went back to the table. Later, we figured out it was less expensive to pay with the 3% added on to the card than it would have been to pay the ATM fees! 

 

 

DD and I ate out together last week at a restaurant we go to once in a while. They are giving a 5% discount if you pay with cash, and they are now including an 18% tip on every bill. I always tip a little over 20%, rounding up. So I guess their tip calculation is better for us!   Smiley Wink

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We were charged 22% manditory add on to our bill at Hard Rock In Seattle. The Host told us up front before seating. It was broken down 17% tip and 5% surcharge.

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@beach-mom wrote:

One of our longtime favorite restaurants has always been cash only, but now many are going that way.

 

 

 

 The first time I noticed was a sign at another one of our favorite places. They would add 3% if you paid with a card. Down the hallway I saw a new ATM machine, so after we ordered I went to get cash out. Right away I got a notice that I would be charged $3.50 in addition to any fees our bank would charge. Still I had it in my mind to get that cash! I put in my pin and it didn't recognize it. I tried again and still no luck. So I gave up and went back to the table. Later, we figured out it was less expensive to pay with the 3% added on to the card than it would have been to pay the ATM fees! 

 

 

DD and I ate out together last week at a restaurant we go to once in a while. They are giving a 5% discount if you pay with cash, and they are now including an 18% tip on every bill. I always tip a little over 20%, rounding up. So I guess their tip calculation is better for us!   Smiley Wink


A salon I went to, used to have an ATM machine.  It was because you had to pay the stylist their tip in cash.  No matter how many times I went there, I always forgot to bring cash.  Ugh.

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@Twins Mom wrote:

Its becoming quite common in restaurants for them to add an additional fee if customer uses a charge card.  Sometimes I don't even notice the policy.  I am actually finding myself needing to go to the bank.  Are you also seeing?



Yes, I am seeing it at every restaurant that isn't a chain restaurant. OOPS! Come to think of it even at a chain restaurant. We were charged an extra percentage last week.

 

I can understand it, during the pandemic they had to reconfigure the restaurants and put up additional barriers  Lots of local restaurants went out of business. And the ones that are still open are having a hard time with staffing.

 

My husband went out to lunch with friends. Only one waitress showed up to work the lunch schedule. She called everyone. No one wanted to work lunch, only dinner. 

Just look at the parking lots for restaurants. There are plenty of empty spots. 

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@Mz iMac wrote:

I've always paid cash at restaurants as I am a cash & carry gal.

 

I do not like to use cc or debit cards at restaurants because the "card" disappear from your hands when you hand it over to the waiter or waitress......who then goes to the cash register section.....you're sitting at your table waiting for like maybe 10-15 minutes (depending if crowded/very busy)....long enough for fraud to happen before your card is returned to you.

 


@Mz iMac - This happened to us. DD got takeout for us at one of our favorite restaurants on her way home one Friday night. She had my card. When she went to get the food the lobby was filled with people. She gave her name and the hostess took her card to the back. 

 

 

Later that night I was checking our account and noticed a charge from Uber eats, which we have never used. There were quite a few, then I noticed a charge for a little over $800.00 from Uber travel, which I didn't even know existed! It was too late to call the bank, but I did first thing Saturday morning. They were great. They blocked my card, which is always inconvenient, and said I would get a new one in "7-10 days," and I could keep my pin. So I would have to share DH's. A few days later I noticed questionable charges on our account. I called the bank. The representative said they had issued the card, but it hadn't been sent yet. So someone used my card before I even had it. Even she couldn't believe it!

 

 

She advised me to change my pin and said she would send out a new one!

 

 

She also said what probably happened at the restaurant is someone standing in the lobby with DD had a card-reading contraption. DD has a regular wallet; I have an RFID one. 


 

I try to be VERY careful, but you never know who's around. 

 

 

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Re: Cash or Charge in Restaurants


@drizzellla wrote:

@Twins Mom wrote:

Its becoming quite common in restaurants for them to add an additional fee if customer uses a charge card.  Sometimes I don't even notice the policy.  I am actually finding myself needing to go to the bank.  Are you also seeing?



Yes, I am seeing it at every restaurant that isn't a chain restaurant. OOPS! Come to think of it even at a chain restaurant. We were charged an extra percentage last week.

 

I can understand it, during the pandemic they had to reconfigure the restaurants and put up additional barriers  Lots of local restaurants went out of business. And the ones that are still open are having a hard time with staffing.

 

My husband went out to lunch with friends. Only one waitress showed up to work the lunch schedule. She called everyone. No one wanted to work lunch, only dinner. 

Just look at the parking lots for restaurants. There are plenty of empty spots. 


Don't know where you live but in the Phoenix and surrounding cities our restaurants are busy from the time they open until they close. Waiting is the norm at busy times. Of course, no one will eat outside now so fewer indoor seats.  But when it's October to April the seats outside are usually full.