Captain Crozier was relieved of his command, but he will keep his rank and remain in the Navy.
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04-04-2020 07:53 PM
@Bridgegal wrote:
@MorningLover wrote:
Captain Crozier was relieved of his command, but he will keep his rank and remain in the Navy.
~nbc newsWEll, we'll see about that. It's early on.
From the sound of your reply, are you going to make the decision???
04-04-2020 08:03 PM
For anyone who believes he did the wrong thing, so far there are 155 confirmed cases among the sailors from this ship.
04-04-2020 08:06 PM
My son in law was a Lieutenant in the Navy on that ship.
He has a lot of fun stories he tells us about it.
I never understood exactly what he did (something about the nuclear reactor) but he had something about steering or giving the coordinates of the ship.
Anyway, he was always up where they observed.
He always talked about when they'd go through the Suez Canal and the kids would jump off into the water. He said it was very scary the way they seemed so close to the ship.
My late husband and daughter (when she was engaged to him) got to ride on the ship. They have a program where you can get on and ride the ship for a short distance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5HCxaWO0kM
When he got out of the Navy he wanted to have a license plate that said "carry a big stick" (somehow he put it on there?) but the DMV would approve it for some reason.
04-04-2020 08:14 PM
@JaneMarple wrote:For anyone who believes he did the wrong thing, so far there are 155 confirmed cases among the sailors from this ship.
THIS is why i dont understand just WHY the navy thinks they were handling this quickly? it is so easy for them to say they were on top of the situation, isnt it?
i truly believe he was forced to do this to protect his crew.....and i am sure that is just one of the MANY reasons why they applauded him.
04-04-2020 10:07 PM
My husband I were both officers in the USAF, so I have a completely different take. The Captain was wrong. He did at least 3 things that every military officer is trained NOT to do. 1.He revealed classified information through insecure channels, letting every bad actor country out there know he had a reduction in force. 2. He did not use his chain of command. 3. He allowed his sailors to take liberty off ship in Vietnam the first week in March while the virus was raging in China. Do you know how close those 2 countries are?
Also, although 155 sailors have tested positive, they all have mild or asymptomatic cases. None required hospitalization. He could have waited. The Navy was handling it. Instead he endangered the lives of others in his carrier group. Do you know that carrier was not alone? It was accompanied by a strike force. Destroyers, subs supply ships. I have a nephew in the Navy doing a highly classified job and his actions put him and others in danger. He revealed a weakness and there are many who will take advantage of it.
04-04-2020 10:13 PM
I am former Military, Navy. I salute Captain Brett Crozier.
04-04-2020 10:22 PM
@arizele wrote:My husband I were both officers in the USAF, so I have a completely different take. The Captain was wrong. He did at least 3 things that every military officer is trained NOT to do. 1.He revealed classified information through insecure channels, letting every bad actor country out there know he had a reduction in force. 2. He did not use his chain of command. 3. He allowed his sailors to take liberty off ship in Vietnam the first week in March while the virus was raging in China. Do you know how close those 2 countries are?
Also, although 155 sailors have tested positive, they all have mild or asymptomatic cases. None required hospitalization. He could have waited. The Navy was handling it. Instead he endangered the lives of others in his carrier group. Do you know that carrier was not alone? It was accompanied by a strike force. Destroyers, subs supply ships. I have a nephew in the Navy doing a highly classified job and his actions put him and others in danger. He revealed a weakness and there are many who will take advantage of it.
There are THOUSANDS of DEAD Americans who seemed ok as well at first! No such thing as he should have waited!.
04-04-2020 10:35 PM
I really do not see how containing all those sailors on the ship, 155 of them who had the virus was the best decision for those sailors.I cannot see any reasoning of security or otherwise that made it the best thing to do.
If my son was one of those sailors, I would have applauded Captain Crozier too!
I think he was definitely thinking of his crew first, which is what a Captain does.
The applause of every single one of his crew was enough
confirmation that he did the right thing!
I know I would not be the only one in this country civilian and otherwise, saluting him!
04-04-2020 10:45 PM
@arizele wrote:My husband I were both officers in the USAF, so I have a completely different take. The Captain was wrong. He did at least 3 things that every military officer is trained NOT to do. 1.He revealed classified information through insecure channels, letting every bad actor country out there know he had a reduction in force. 2. He did not use his chain of command. 3. He allowed his sailors to take liberty off ship in Vietnam the first week in March while the virus was raging in China. Do you know how close those 2 countries are?
Also, although 155 sailors have tested positive, they all have mild or asymptomatic cases. None required hospitalization. He could have waited. The Navy was handling it. Instead he endangered the lives of others in his carrier group. Do you know that carrier was not alone? It was accompanied by a strike force. Destroyers, subs supply ships. I have a nephew in the Navy doing a highly classified job and his actions put him and others in danger. He revealed a weakness and there are many who will take advantage of it.
Thank you and your husband for your service @arizele ❤️and I appreciate your perspective.
04-05-2020 12:55 AM
Any Captain of a U.S. Navy ship, leaving the ship for good, gets the same send off. It's a customary thing. Capt Crozier's send-off was the same as the sailors do for other Captains. The media interprets it as a political thing. But it's not. My husband is retired Navy officer.
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