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12-04-2020 02:42 PM - edited 12-04-2020 02:46 PM
@Porcelain wrote:Let's be clear though. You can't get Covid from waste water or tap water.
They are just using the traces to gauge how many people may be infected because testing is still not adequate in many areas.
@Porcelain I'm thinking about when someone uses even their own toilet...the 'toilet plume'
For those interested, read this info:
What to Know About COVID-19, Public Bathrooms, and 'Toilet Plume'
My point is that nobody really knows at what level we need to be concerned. I personally wouldn't worry too much about it unless I was in a hotspot/zone.
12-04-2020 03:15 PM - edited 12-04-2020 03:18 PM
@Susan Louise wrote:
@itsmagic wrote:I read an article a couple months ago of how places like colleges had their wastewater checked to keep track of Covid infections.
@itsmagic Well, I'm thinking about at what levels will it start to be concerning for those who isolate/stay at home? The chart in the article is eye-opening. Add on that the spike in COVID cases/deaths is just starting to ramp up and nobody really knows right now at what level we need to be concerned.
@Susan Louise I don't understand your point about people isolating and staying at home and waste water. If they are not infected how would they come in contact with infected waste water? The water in the toilet is not waste water until waste is put in it.
You mention people using their own toilet and the "toilet plume." But the article is about public restrooms.
12-04-2020 03:24 PM
As long as we aren't drinking, cooking, cleaning or bathing in waste water I think we'll be okay.
12-04-2020 03:46 PM
@CelticCrafter wrote:As long as we aren't drinking, cooking, cleaning or bathing in waste water I think we'll be okay.
@CelticCrafter I get your point...
At the same time, waste management is not infallible. This has been a crazy year to say the least. For example, disasters like flooding...even minor in localized areas could potentially become an issue if the water was untreated.
Again, nobody really knows yet at what the level of COVID in the waste water would be concerning.
12-04-2020 03:49 PM
@Susan Louise wrote:
@CelticCrafter wrote:As long as we aren't drinking, cooking, cleaning or bathing in waste water I think we'll be okay.
@CelticCrafter I get your point...
At the same time, waste management is not infallible. This has been a crazy year to say the least. For example, disasters like flooding...even minor in localized areas could potentially become an issue if the water was untreated.
Again, nobody really knows yet at what the level of COVID in the waste water would be concerning.
I refuse to become paranoid over my tap water.
12-04-2020 04:01 PM
@Susan Louise wrote:
@CelticCrafter wrote:As long as we aren't drinking, cooking, cleaning or bathing in waste water I think we'll be okay.
@CelticCrafter I get your point...
At the same time, waste management is not infallible. This has been a crazy year to say the least. For example, disasters like flooding...even minor in localized areas could potentially become an issue if the water was untreated.
Again, nobody really knows yet at what the level of COVID in the waste water would be concerning.
There is no level of Covid traces that would be concerning as far as catching anything. You could wade through it and nothing would happen to you, Covidwise. It would just be gross.
If a virus can't replicate it's not dangerous anymore. It's to all intents and purposes, dead. That's not up for debate.
You are conflating a bunch of different but similar sound things here. Covid traces are not the same thing as the Covid virus. A toilet plume of someone's actual personal waste that could contain a minute amount (not enough to infect anyone) live virus at that brief moment in a public bathroom with a toilet without a lid on it--is not the same as waste water with dead Covid traces from the community in it. It sounds similar but it's not. And none of it is considered a public health concern at this time.
If you trust the experts, which we should, this is not the area to invest time and energy in. Of course you can and will do as you like.
12-04-2020 04:11 PM
There have been articles written over the years about the "residue" from all sorts of drugs (legal and illegal) that people have been taking.
The amount of hormones from BC pills has actually caused genetic changes in fish!
So - finding virus residue isn't surprising.
Google: Pharmaceuticals, hormones, and Other Organic Wastewater Contaminants in U.S. Streams
12-04-2020 04:13 PM
Note to self:
Next visit to Boston, don't drink from toilet. Check.
12-04-2020 04:36 PM
@Susan Louise et al. The waste water was tested in a university town close to where I live. It revealed that there was COVID in the community although no one there had tested positive.
The occurrence led medical professionals to immmediatwly ramp up testing in the town and get a handle on the virus before it got out of control. Once it was found in the waste water there were pop up testing sites immediately deployed to deal with it.
Testing waste water is a good thing, I am in Nova Scotia. S.
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