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07-25-2023 01:58 PM
@deeva wrote:
@ManyMeows wrote:🤔 "Bronny James?"
Sounds like a Scottish Bagpipe player who over exerted himself while playing "Amazing Grace."
Sorry/ Not Sorry/ Not a Sports Fan
I'm not a sports fan either, but I have empathy for another human being.
I adore sports and am sitting on pins and needles for preseason football. I am so happy it is never 2 much trouble in my heart to feel for others suffering. @deeva I bet you would have a ball watching me jump, scream and yell for my Dallas Cowboys!! ![]()
07-25-2023 02:04 PM
@Love my grandkids .... Sorry I didn't check the spelling of papa James. I've never been a fan of his, however, like some others here, I do have empathy for others.
Thanks for the correction. ![]()
07-25-2023 02:24 PM
@Zernia Rose wrote:Bronny and Damar were both blessed to receive immediate and excellent life saving medical care. I hope both recover. I am not certain that either should return to the intensity of demanding collegiate or professional sports.
I clearly don't understand the requirements, but back when I was in school, athletes used to be required to pass a rigorous annual physical. No exceptions.
This young man must have had good medical care growing up, and any conditions would already be known to the family.
Doesn't this seem odd to anyone else here?
07-25-2023 02:45 PM - edited 07-25-2023 02:47 PM
@bikerbabe wrote:
It’s rare, but when it happens it gets a lot of press attention. So thankful he had access to quick resources as it happened during practice at USC.
Most often in a young otherwise fit athlete there is an undetected congenital issue Usually congenital hypertrophic cardiomyopathy or an electrical conduction issue. A sudden cardiac arrest is not the same as a “heart attack” due to an occlusion.
I had one patient, college age.
@bikerbabe It sounds like you are well versed on heart issues.
I, too, am curious how some of these heart abnormalities are missed during physicals. Are they not able to be detected without specialized testing or are there no tests to find the abnormality and shows up randomly as it did in Bronny?
I definitely remember the same thing happening to young athletes before.
Thanks.
07-25-2023 02:55 PM - edited 07-25-2023 03:00 PM
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Zernia Rose wrote:Bronny and Damar were both blessed to receive immediate and excellent life saving medical care. I hope both recover. I am not certain that either should return to the intensity of demanding collegiate or professional sports.
I clearly don't understand the requirements, but back when I was in school, athletes used to be required to pass a rigorous annual physical. No exceptions.
This young man must have had good medical care growing up, and any conditions would already be known to the family.
Doesn't this seem odd to anyone else here?
🤔 This happens with great regularity every year in July and August. It's usually written off as exhaustion/dehydration/ high temps/overexertion/low blood sugar, and the like. Coaches are far too focused on "winning is everthing", and not on the health and well being of team players. Granted, there are underlying "silent" conditions that manifest during brutal workouts, and that is no way to discover an illness. The players may be big and strong, but they are still children, mostly high school seniors, and college freshman, and coaches aren't sending these kids the right message.
Doesn't the old saying go "It's Not Whether You win or Lose but How You Play the Game?"
07-25-2023 03:04 PM
My guess is Bronny was practicing at USC in an air conditioned gym when this happened and not in a game.
I seriously do not think he was outside in this heat playing a pick up game.
He will eventually be drafted into the NBA for big bucks. The hope is he can play on the same team as LeBron for awhile.
There are trainers, both from the school and personal, that I am certain are around for him and "watching out."
07-25-2023 05:59 PM
I know a high school senior honor student who had a cardiac event. He was transferred out of town to a CCU in a larger city. The doctors there told him to cut back on the energy drinks. The causes of these events are many.
07-25-2023 06:32 PM
@bikerbabe wrote:
It’s rare, but when it happens it gets a lot of press attention. So thankful he had access to quick resources as it happened during practice at USC.
Most often in a young otherwise fit athlete there is an undetected congenital issue Usually congenital hypertrophic cardiomyopathy or an electrical conduction issue. A sudden cardiac arrest is not the same as a “heart attack” due to an occlusion.
I had one patient, college age.
I agree with you - it is rare. I believe the football player was hit in the chest in such a way that it caused cardiac arrest. Just like they used to recommend the "precordial thump" before starting CPR.
Bronny James may very well have had an undetected congenital condition. True, it is no heart attack. It is a totally different process.
If I were Bronny James parent, I doubt i would want him playing again. They usually won't allow it, but.....I used to work for a cardiologist who did a lot of sports physicals. He would deny anyone with something like this.
I echo the sentiment of people who say these people should release the cause of this in each. It could help someone else.
Both of these young men were so fortunate to have immediate, knowledgeable, health care for their emergency.
Hyacinth
07-25-2023 06:38 PM
@ManyMeows wrote:🤔 "Bronny James?"
Sounds like a Scottish Bagpipe player who over exerted himself while playing "Amazing Grace."
Sorry/ Not Sorry/ Not a Sports Fan
He is someone's young son. What does it have to do with sports.
His name sounds adorable maybe if you ever looked at anyone lovingly...
you might understand.
07-25-2023 06:58 PM
I'm happy to hear that Bronny is stable and out of the ICU. I'm sure they are doing tests to try and determine the cause of his arrest. Last July, another USC freshman, Vincent Iwuchukwu, also suffered cardiac arrest and was hospitalized for several days. He returned to play for USC in January appearing in 14 games last season.
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