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[suzyQ3]

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@decaf wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@on the bay wrote:

@decaf,

I don't care to discuss it anymore either. I will just say that I did not start the disagreement with you. I think you fail to see any other viewpoint but your own.

I am not that way at all. I like to see many sides. I've read the articles too regarding those generations.

You can't presume what others think on here.

We can hopefully respectfully agree to disagree.

It can be a mutually enlightening discussion as long as everyone doesn't make it a back and forth against each other. I stated my opinion and you seemed to take offense at everything I posted. And you seemed to want the back and forth. I get your viewpoint, and acknowledged it also from many things I said, agreeing with that.

I don't feel you did the same, or wanted to see any other side.

I can see you have strong opinions about those generations from the articles and your experience. 

But we'll move on ok?

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@on the bay, I would bet that there has been negative opinions about every single generation. It's low-hanging fruit for lazy writers.

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@suzyQ3  What is a "lazy writer"?

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@decaf, it's just what it sounds like.

[decaf]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@decaf wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@on the bay wrote:

@decaf,

I don't care to discuss it anymore either. I will just say that I did not start the disagreement with you. I think you fail to see any other viewpoint but your own.

I am not that way at all. I like to see many sides. I've read the articles too regarding those generations.

You can't presume what others think on here.

We can hopefully respectfully agree to disagree.

It can be a mutually enlightening discussion as long as everyone doesn't make it a back and forth against each other. I stated my opinion and you seemed to take offense at everything I posted. And you seemed to want the back and forth. I get your viewpoint, and acknowledged it also from many things I said, agreeing with that.

I don't feel you did the same, or wanted to see any other side.

I can see you have strong opinions about those generations from the articles and your experience. 

But we'll move on ok?

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@on the bay, I would bet that there has been negative opinions about every single generation. It's low-hanging fruit for lazy writers.

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@suzyQ3  What is a "lazy writer"?

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@decaf, it's just what it sounds like.

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@suzyQ3   I wish I could say thanks for answering my question. But you chose not to.  Maybe that's what a "lazy writer' is.

[suzyQ3]

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@decaf wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@decaf wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@on the bay wrote:

@decaf,

I don't care to discuss it anymore either. I will just say that I did not start the disagreement with you. I think you fail to see any other viewpoint but your own.

I am not that way at all. I like to see many sides. I've read the articles too regarding those generations.

You can't presume what others think on here.

We can hopefully respectfully agree to disagree.

It can be a mutually enlightening discussion as long as everyone doesn't make it a back and forth against each other. I stated my opinion and you seemed to take offense at everything I posted. And you seemed to want the back and forth. I get your viewpoint, and acknowledged it also from many things I said, agreeing with that.

I don't feel you did the same, or wanted to see any other side.

I can see you have strong opinions about those generations from the articles and your experience. 

But we'll move on ok?

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@on the bay, I would bet that there has been negative opinions about every single generation. It's low-hanging fruit for lazy writers.

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@suzyQ3  What is a "lazy writer"?

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@decaf, it's just what it sounds like.

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@suzyQ3   I wish I could say thanks for answering my question. But you chose not to.  Maybe that's what a "lazy writer' is.

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@decaf,your question wasn't a question; it was a comment. I can be fooled for sure, but I know the difference between the two.

[decaf]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@decaf wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@decaf wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@on the bay wrote:

@decaf,

I don't care to discuss it anymore either. I will just say that I did not start the disagreement with you. I think you fail to see any other viewpoint but your own.

I am not that way at all. I like to see many sides. I've read the articles too regarding those generations.

You can't presume what others think on here.

We can hopefully respectfully agree to disagree.

It can be a mutually enlightening discussion as long as everyone doesn't make it a back and forth against each other. I stated my opinion and you seemed to take offense at everything I posted. And you seemed to want the back and forth. I get your viewpoint, and acknowledged it also from many things I said, agreeing with that.

I don't feel you did the same, or wanted to see any other side.

I can see you have strong opinions about those generations from the articles and your experience. 

But we'll move on ok?

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@on the bay, I would bet that there has been negative opinions about every single generation. It's low-hanging fruit for lazy writers.

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@suzyQ3  What is a "lazy writer"?

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@decaf, it's just what it sounds like.

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@suzyQ3   I wish I could say thanks for answering my question. But you chose not to.  Maybe that's what a "lazy writer' is.

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@decaf,your question wasn't a question; it was a comment. I can be fooled for sure, but I know the difference between the two.

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@suzyQ3  You're wrong, call me stupid if you want but please don't call me insincere.. It was a GENUINE question, I have no idea what a "lazy writer" is!  Still don't  I have no idea why you're being so unkind to me.

[Porcelain]

I agree that it's lazy thinking and writing to just generalize and say, "Oh kids these days are all too..." Take your pick: entitled, lazy, overly ambitious, rude, sensitive, politically correct, disrespectful, demanding, easy going, impatient...

You can pick any negative trait and apply it to anyone and you will probably be right. We all have these issues as well as the more positive sides of those traits, which would be our virtues.

When you single out an entire age group to label it in some way, that is always lazy and never the complete story. This also applies to any other method for categorizing people.

If you want to be treated as a unique individual and not just stereotyped according to your appearance, age, religion, ethnicity, geographic location, height, weight, haircolor, education, income level, and more...Then you are required to treat all other human beings as unique individuals as well. It works both ways or it doesn't work at all.

If you don't care, that's fine. But expect to get pushback from the people you've offended or annoyed by making unpleasant blanket assumptions about them and those they love.

[Cakers3]

Up thread there was a mentioned that service workers are in short supply because there is a shortage of immigrants.

I find that disturbing that low-wages are fine for immigrants, documented or not.  There are plenty of persons able to work no matter their status.

Immigrants, especially undocumented, have a less of a chance to move out from such jobs. 

They are not, however, the only ones working in low-paying service jobs.

How many of us worked in such places during high school and college?

*raises hand*

And not for anything more than minimum wage.

The transition from young people earning school money and seniors working for a few extra dollars has morphed into service jobs meant to support whole families and displaced professional people, many who lost jobs due to no fault of their own.

The demand for $15/hr is not new; but it has gained an impressive amount of support due to this pandemic and the extra Federal $$.

I believe some workers fell behind in rent, bills, food, etc. in the beginning and I fully supported the extra help for them.

However, distribution of wealth (not a novel idea in history) is not the perfect ending in employment situations.

It is sad to see so many mom/pop outfits closed for good; and even those offering mega-incentives to work for them still scramble for people to apply, let alone take the job.

[Lucky Dog]

@decaf : I can see why some don't want to come here and ask a question.

[Porcelain]

As to labor shortages. Supply and demand. Employers need to compete for workers. That's as it should be.

They need to look at providing steady schedules and benefits alongside these pay rates. Workers do not want to be mistreated by being required to do "Clopenings." Look it up if you are unfamiliar with the term.

Frontline workers do not know how much money they will make week to week or month to month. One week they may work 12 hours. Another week, 39 hours, or overtime, or zero hours. This means that they often have to rely on high interest payday loans to pay their rent. This puts them behind the eight ball financially, almost immediately.

Also many of the people who were laid off or fired due to the pandemic are women, and many of them have children. With uncertain, unpredictable, schedules that are often revealed with less than 2 weeks to plan, these women are not opting to remain unemployed, but they are opting for work that has predictable hours so they can ensure their children are not left alone without supervision.

Sounds like some of you want the children of frontline workers to be left home alone or running the streets. Unless you have a solution that fixes that, you really have no call to judge these mothers who are putting their children first by refusing to serve you at your local Wendys.

[tansy]

@Cakers3, keep in mind that the minimum wage back in the 60s and 70s bought a lot more.  I did know women that lived independently on those wages.

[Cakers3]

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@tansy wrote:

@Cakers3, keep in mind that the minimum wage back in the 60s and 70s bought a lot more.  I did know women that lived independently on those wages.

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@tansy   True in terms of prices. 

Speaking only for myself, I worked those jobs in high school for personal expenses (and not for Cover Girl Make-Up lol) and in college to pay for college expenses and car expenses.

What I am reading here is nobody make a "negative" observation without being called "lazy".  (Not you)

I am also reading that on the one hand some posters are saying others are too generalizing yet in the next sentence accuse others of not caring for children as a generalization.

I'm reading through this thread trying to keep perpective but it sure is difficult watching some of the duo tap-dancing.

But I digress.