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[lgfan]

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@Wsmom wrote:

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@LavernLuvsShoes wrote:

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@Wsmom wrote:

... Kids make bad decisions sometimes.

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Especially when heavy drinking is involved. 

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I can't even blame that, @LavernLuvsShoes . My worst decisions I was perfectly sober and knew not to do it.  Putting myself in an unsafe circumstance.   Fortunatey I lived to talk about it. 

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The thing with young people is that they think that they are invincible.  They read about bad things happening to young people but they never think it will happen to them.

[hopi]

No.... they don't give this much attention to so many missing young people or victims of mass shootings.

Very sad that this has happened to her family.

[Greeneyedlady21]

There are also the two brothers who had purchased plane tickets to Boston who somehow ended up in rural Georgia dead. Supposedly it was a murder suicide, but the circumstances of their deaths seem quite suspicious.

[Tinkrbl44]

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@shoekitty wrote:

What is astonishing, ( or not), is how many young women disappear everyday.  You just have to watch some of those shows, like Cold Justice,  and the ilk,.  Or even in your home town. Most of the time we never hear about them. Unless they are  girls with clout, money, very attractive or famous...they are little known outside  their area.  When girls as in this case are missing, it is a good time to showcase the plight of missing women. 

I don't know if you all remember, but about 15 years ago my granddaughters close friend SIERRA LAMAR was missing   Never found. . I had posted on the forum. A long thread was left up a long time. QVC was very kind about it. She was 15 at the time. Coming from the inside on this horrible thing you see the long term pain, anxiety and issues people close to missing suffer.  My granddaughter still carries the fears, anxiety of that time. They did finally arrest and convict  the animal ...but he never confessed or let parents know where she was.  I don't know if there ever such a thing as closure.  Not really. Time just changes some things, but the crime you never forget. My heart truely goes out to the missing family and circle of friends

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@shoekitty 

How do they manage to get a conviction without the body ever being recovered?   Did he admit to it?  

[Tinkrbl44]

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@Karie2022 wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

Natalie was with Joran but also the Kalpoe brothers were involved.  All three had been arrested several times but released. 

Joran's father had influence in Aruba.

This case will never be officially solved.

I believe Natalie's drink was drugged and she either died from a reaction and/or resisted sexual assault. The Kalpoe brothers referred her as dressing and acting like a s*ut. As though they had high morals.

Joran is a deeply disturbed individual, playing games with Beth Holloway and also murdered Stephanie Ramirez in Peru 

I don't believe the Holloway case and Sudiksha Konanki's disappearance are the same.

 I believe Sudiksha drowned and was most likely alcohol impaired.

I do hope there will not be a rush to judgement for Joshua Ribi.

He was initially interviewed without counsel and an interpreter.

He may have given some inconsistencies but not severe enough to warrant deception as Joran did.

Hungover and scared leads to distorted memory.

This young woman is most likely deceased. I hope her body will be found so her parents can properly bury her.

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Totally agree; my gut says she drowned and was not murdered. I think this kid had a few different stories because he was drunk and couldn't remember. So sad and devastating for the family. I have two in college and yes they are considered adults by law, but I would be hard pressed to let them go out of the country for spring break. Especially since we hold the purse strings. 

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@Karie2022   @San Antonio Gal 

If someone has been drinking they can't possibly recall everything accurately.  I'd hate to be put in a position to answer in police interrogations when I really didn't know all the facts, but they wanted answers.  Yikes! 

I hope he has a good lawyer.

[shoekitty]

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

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@shoekitty wrote:

What is astonishing, ( or not), is how many young women disappear everyday.  You just have to watch some of those shows, like Cold Justice,  and the ilk,.  Or even in your home town. Most of the time we never hear about them. Unless they are  girls with clout, money, very attractive or famous...they are little known outside  their area.  When girls as in this case are missing, it is a good time to showcase the plight of missing women. 

I don't know if you all remember, but about 15 years ago my granddaughters close friend SIERRA LAMAR was missing   Never found. . I had posted on the forum. A long thread was left up a long time. QVC was very kind about it. She was 15 at the time. Coming from the inside on this horrible thing you see the long term pain, anxiety and issues people close to missing suffer.  My granddaughter still carries the fears, anxiety of that time. They did finally arrest and convict  the animal ...but he never confessed or let parents know where she was.  I don't know if there ever such a thing as closure.  Not really. Time just changes some things, but the crime you never forget. My heart truely goes out to the missing family and circle of friends

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@shoekitty 

How do they manage to get a conviction without the body ever being recovered?   Did he admit to it?  

@Tinkrbl44   he did some kind of plea.   There was a lot of evidence. Blood, hair fibers in trunk, passenger seat. Also, evidence that wasn't released publically. He took a plea deal.  But he never told how she was murder Ed, what happened, nor where she could be found. It was just the anniversery of her disappearance and the her parents ask him all the time, but no nothing.   You can read about him and his conviction without a body. Antolin Torres Garcia, San Jose. This was the murder of Sierra Lamar. You can also search Sierra Lamar on these forums and all the old posts come up about his trial. 

[Greeneyedlady21]

The sheriff said that Joshua is no longer a person of interest or a suspect

[cody2]

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@Wsmom wrote:

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@LavernLuvsShoes wrote:

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@Wsmom wrote:

... Kids make bad decisions sometimes.

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Especially when heavy drinking is involved. 

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I can't even blame that, @LavernLuvsShoes . My worst decisions I was perfectly sober and knew not to do it.  Putting myself in an unsafe circumstance.   Fortunatey I lived to talk about it. 

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I bet that applies to many of us. I never drank when young and I still managed some colossal bad decisions.

[shoekitty]

When drinking, (heavy drinking ) is involved...common sense goes out the window!!!  These  kids , some still young with brain lobes not fully developed, lol , drink themselves into a stupor..... over and over again these disappearances, murders, hazings, kidnappings, rapings happen!!!   Everything they know or,have learned, goes out the windo, and mob mentality rules.   It is not totally their fault, and it IS their fault   Make a pact with a partner, a do or die pact. No one will leave the other. They will go home together but, things don't always work out.  Sigh.