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[Topaz Gem]

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

I didn't see the Ken Burns film, although I plan to at a later date, but I remember studying Teddy in school and it was explained that he was a real outdoorsman and had the 'hunter gene'. I didn't get the impression that he was a serial killer-in-the-making or anything, just that he loved to hunt.

[terrier3]

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

A lot of people back then had collections of taxidermy. Birds, foxes, squirrels, butterflies under glass.

Even Martha Stewart, a big antiques collector, has cloches with stuffed birds.

It was a different mindset back then.

I am looking forward to TRs progressive reforms...that should be coming tonight.

[NoelSeven]

On 9/15/2014 terrier3 said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

A lot of people back then had collections of taxidermy. Birds, foxes, squirrels, butterflies under glass.

Even Martha Stewart, a big antiques collector, has cloches with stuffed birds.

It was a different mindset back then.

I am looking forward to TRs progressive reforms...that should be coming tonight.

Yes, I realize that, but he was so into it, not only killing them but doing his own taxidermy, and then enjoyed killing men during the Spanish-American war. That pattern is a red flag, as you know.

[LyndaGee]

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 terrier3 said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

A lot of people back then had collections of taxidermy. Birds, foxes, squirrels, butterflies under glass.

Even Martha Stewart, a big antiques collector, has cloches with stuffed birds.

It was a different mindset back then.

I am looking forward to TRs progressive reforms...that should be coming tonight.

Yes, I realize that, but he was so into it, not only killing them but doing his own taxidermy, and then enjoyed killing men during the Spanish-American war. That pattern is a red flag, as you know.

He said he regretted not having sustained a disfiguring injury. Wow. But, didn't he mellow after he lost his son, Quentin?

[scotttie]

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 terrier3 said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

A lot of people back then had collections of taxidermy. Birds, foxes, squirrels, butterflies under glass.

Even Martha Stewart, a big antiques collector, has cloches with stuffed birds.

It was a different mindset back then.

I am looking forward to TRs progressive reforms...that should be coming tonight.

Yes, I realize that, but he was so into it, not only killing them but doing his own taxidermy, and then enjoyed killing men during the Spanish-American war. That pattern is a red flag, as you know.

Some people do taxidermy. I don't see a red flag there, and as she said in those days it was just what men did. Hunting etc. And probably their own taxidermy.

As for the war lust, the show said he was mortified that his father bought his way out of the Civil War service. As to the rest of his psychological reasons, I guess we will never know.

Also, we must remember, quotes of the man are just that quotes unless they have video of him actually saying it. And also, we don't know whether he was serious or joking etc.

[NoelSeven]

On 9/15/2014 scotttie said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 terrier3 said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

A lot of people back then had collections of taxidermy. Birds, foxes, squirrels, butterflies under glass.

Even Martha Stewart, a big antiques collector, has cloches with stuffed birds.

It was a different mindset back then.

I am looking forward to TRs progressive reforms...that should be coming tonight.

Yes, I realize that, but he was so into it, not only killing them but doing his own taxidermy, and then enjoyed killing men during the Spanish-American war. That pattern is a red flag, as you know.

Some people do taxidermy. I don't see a red flag there, and as she said in those days it was just what men did. Hunting etc. And probably their own taxidermy.

As for the war lust, the show said he was mortified that his father bought his way out of the Civil War service. As to the rest of his psychological reasons, I guess we will never know.

Also, we must remember, quotes of the man are just that quotes unless they have video of him actually saying it. And also, we don't know whether he was serious or joking etc.

Scottie, the pattern of animal to human is a well known red flag. I just did some online research and it turns out it was recognized in Teddy R. by several over the years and has been studied and written about. Anyone interested can find it online.

[scotttie]

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 scotttie said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 terrier3 said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

A lot of people back then had collections of taxidermy. Birds, foxes, squirrels, butterflies under glass.

Even Martha Stewart, a big antiques collector, has cloches with stuffed birds.

It was a different mindset back then.

I am looking forward to TRs progressive reforms...that should be coming tonight.

Yes, I realize that, but he was so into it, not only killing them but doing his own taxidermy, and then enjoyed killing men during the Spanish-American war. That pattern is a red flag, as you know.

Some people do taxidermy. I don't see a red flag there, and as she said in those days it was just what men did. Hunting etc. And probably their own taxidermy.

As for the war lust, the show said he was mortified that his father bought his way out of the Civil War service. As to the rest of his psychological reasons, I guess we will never know.

Also, we must remember, quotes of the man are just that quotes unless they have video of him actually saying it. And also, we don't know whether he was serious or joking etc.

Scottie, the pattern of animal to human is a well known red flag. I just did some online research and it turns out it was recognized in Teddy R. by several over the years and has been studied and written about. Anyone interested can find it online.

Yes, Noel, I know that. My point being, it is difficult to transpose what is considered fine and normal today with what is fine and normal back then.

I recall the articles that came out saying President Lincoln was gay because he slept in the same bed with another fellow while traveling.

Things that were the norm in decades/centuries past are not the norm today.

I could find it online but I already get what you are saying.

[NoelSeven]

On 9/15/2014 scotttie said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 scotttie said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 terrier3 said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

A lot of people back then had collections of taxidermy. Birds, foxes, squirrels, butterflies under glass.

Even Martha Stewart, a big antiques collector, has cloches with stuffed birds.

It was a different mindset back then.

I am looking forward to TRs progressive reforms...that should be coming tonight.

Yes, I realize that, but he was so into it, not only killing them but doing his own taxidermy, and then enjoyed killing men during the Spanish-American war. That pattern is a red flag, as you know.

Some people do taxidermy. I don't see a red flag there, and as she said in those days it was just what men did. Hunting etc. And probably their own taxidermy.

As for the war lust, the show said he was mortified that his father bought his way out of the Civil War service. As to the rest of his psychological reasons, I guess we will never know.

Also, we must remember, quotes of the man are just that quotes unless they have video of him actually saying it. And also, we don't know whether he was serious or joking etc.

Scottie, the pattern of animal to human is a well known red flag. I just did some online research and it turns out it was recognized in Teddy R. by several over the years and has been studied and written about. Anyone interested can find it online.

Yes, Noel, I know that. My point being, it is difficult to transpose what is considered fine and normal today with what is fine and normal back then.

I recall the articles that came out saying President Lincoln was gay because he slept in the same bed with another fellow while traveling.

Things that were the norm in decades/centuries past are not the norm today.

I could find it online but I already get what you are saying.

The pattern I'm talking about was the same then as it is today, but as I said, it was a red flag. Apparently there was much more to the overall pattern with Teddy that has already been studied.

[traveler]

Be careful if you visit Alaska since taxidermy is popular here. Malls often have big glass boxes with bears, wolves, etc. displayed. The airport, restaurants, other public buildings have stuffed birds or game animal heads displayed. And we have the annual Fur Rondy every Feb. It's the norm here.

[scotttie]

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 scotttie said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 scotttie said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 9/15/2014 terrier3 said:

On 9/15/2014 NoelSeven said:

Does anyone have an idea why Teddy enjoyed killing so much? He started with animals & birds, which is pretty creepy.

A lot of people back then had collections of taxidermy. Birds, foxes, squirrels, butterflies under glass.

Even Martha Stewart, a big antiques collector, has cloches with stuffed birds.

It was a different mindset back then.

I am looking forward to TRs progressive reforms...that should be coming tonight.

Yes, I realize that, but he was so into it, not only killing them but doing his own taxidermy, and then enjoyed killing men during the Spanish-American war. That pattern is a red flag, as you know.

Some people do taxidermy. I don't see a red flag there, and as she said in those days it was just what men did. Hunting etc. And probably their own taxidermy.

As for the war lust, the show said he was mortified that his father bought his way out of the Civil War service. As to the rest of his psychological reasons, I guess we will never know.

Also, we must remember, quotes of the man are just that quotes unless they have video of him actually saying it. And also, we don't know whether he was serious or joking etc.

Scottie, the pattern of animal to human is a well known red flag. I just did some online research and it turns out it was recognized in Teddy R. by several over the years and has been studied and written about. Anyone interested can find it online.

Yes, Noel, I know that. My point being, it is difficult to transpose what is considered fine and normal today with what is fine and normal back then.

I recall the articles that came out saying President Lincoln was gay because he slept in the same bed with another fellow while traveling.

Things that were the norm in decades/centuries past are not the norm today.

I could find it online but I already get what you are saying.

The pattern I'm talking about was the same then as it is today, but as I said, it was a red flag. Apparently there was much more to the overall pattern with Teddy that has already been studied.

Thanks, friend.