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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?

QVC used to have a World News and Views subforum, and I enjoyed it most days.  So many people who posted there are smart and knowledgable. I learned a lot.

 

My take on its demise is that people who didn't post on the forum resented its existence.  Therefore, QVC, saving themselves some grief, took the subforum away. 

 

To me, adults should be capable of reasonable debate--even heated debate.  Life isn't all butterflies and laughter.  No one is forced to read a sub-forum that they do not enjoy. Yet many posters obviously did have a problem so I can see that QVC had to close the conversation.  I'm just posting to say that on many days, it really was quite an interesting conversation.

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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?


@SeaMaiden wrote:

No. Who in their right mind DISCUSSES politics. It is always just a scream fest that ends with bad feelings.  Best to keep politics and religion at home behind closed doors.


This is an archaic and outdated point of view.

 

Politics have always been important, and are more so now than ever. 

 

I can see people wanting to come to a place that is free of that type of discussion, but to leave it totally out of  one's life entirely is socially irresponsible. 

 

Debate and various view points are essential to the process, and yes, it does get rather ugly sometimes, but that is where one gets to really know the candidate, their supporters, the issues and what is really going on in the world.

 

Head in the sand syndrome is not beneficial to the nation or the individual.

 

 

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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?


@reiki604 wrote:

There are plenty of other sites to discuss politics. This is not one of them. The Internet is a vast and varied place. You can find whatever you want.


 

 

Unless you are pretty much like me, I doubt you start up a conversation with someone/anyone, when sitting in a waiting room. Many ask me "why do that"? I say "why not"?

 

My guess is that most people don't feel comfortable starting a conversation with someone they do not know. For me that is not a problem. Now to the topic of this thread.

 

While most here are cloaked in anonymity, some actually personally know each other. Others FEEL like they know some posters better than others. Now back to that "waiting room".  

 

There is your answer to:  "there are plenty of other sites to discuss politics", as to why many prefer doing so here as opposed to "that waiting room"? 

 

 

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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?

I do find it kinda less interesting here these days, but somd people absolutely cannot accept a difference of opinion.
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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?

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faeriemoon wrote: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?
 

@faeriemoon  In a way, I kind of do miss it, especially when something interesting or outrageous happens. I've found myself, more than once, thinking "I wonder what (insert name here) would say about this." 

 

There are a lot of smart women here and I like to read their points of view--even those with whom I disagree, in fact, maybe especially those with whom I disagree. There are posters here, who I've come to recognize and respect, and there are times I'd like to know about their ideas and opinions.

 

That said, I agree, it doesn't seem to work here and so be it. There are others places to discuss politics, but yes, sometimes I do feel the loss of not discussing it here.  

 

ETA - I said "a lot of smart women" but should have said was there are smart women AND MEN whose opinions I respect and value. 

My apologies to @hckynutjohn and the other men here who contribute to our conversations. That was definitely an "oops" on part!

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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?

People need to get over the fact that politics can't be discussed here.

 

 

All the pouting isn't going to change the fact that politics is a no-no here.

 

There are plenty of websites where one can discuss politics to their hearts content, or they can create a political site of their very own.

 

 

If anyone thinks that politics could be discussed "civilly" here, then they are extremely nieve.

 

 

This is a shopping website, and thete is ZERO need for a political forum here.

 

You want to discuss politics? Go to Vegas, there you can discuss politics all you want.

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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?


@Mominohio wrote:

@SeaMaiden wrote:

No. Who in their right mind DISCUSSES politics. It is always just a scream fest that ends with bad feelings.  Best to keep politics and religion at home behind closed doors.


This is an archaic and outdated point of view.

 

Politics have always been important, and are more so now than ever. 

 

I can see people wanting to come to a place that is free of that type of discussion, but to leave it totally out of  one's life entirely is socially irresponsible. 

 

Debate and various view points are essential to the process, and yes, it does get rather ugly sometimes, but that is where one gets to really know the candidate, their supporters, the issues and what is really going on in the world.

 

Head in the sand syndrome is not beneficial to the nation or the individual.

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Just because one chooses not to have conversations about politics with others (especially in public with people they don't know) does not mean they have their head in the sand or don't know what's going on.

 

People read. They watch TV and listen to the radio. They make up their own minds what they believe and who they want to vote for.

 

To me, those who insist that public debate is "necessary" and that those who disagree are not sufficiently or properly informed, just mean if *they* could only browbeat you with *their* choice until you caved, the world would be a better place, all would be right in *their* political world, etc.


 

Just as there religious evangelists, there are political evangelists. I choose to avoid both. Not because I "don't want to know" and am hiding my head in the sand (from *their* POV), but because I'm an intelligent adult who reads, watches and listens to what is going on around me, and is capable of making my own decisions.

 

Those who insist that political discussions are necessary and MUST be had anywhere and everywhere are just protecting and promoting their own personal soap box. I'm not impressed.

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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?


@SusieQ_2 wrote:

faeriemoon wrote: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?
 

@faeriemoon  In a way, I kind of do miss it, especially when something interesting or outrageous happens. I've found myself, more than once, thinking "I wonder what (insert name here) would say about this." 

 

There are a lot of smart women here and I like to read their points of view--even those with whom I disagree, in fact, maybe especially those with whom I disagree. There are posters here, who I've come to recognize and respect, and there are times I'd like to know about their ideas and opinions.

 

That said, I agree, it doesn't seem to work here and so be it. There are others places to discuss politics, but yes, sometimes I do feel the loss of not discussing it here.  


@SusieQ_2  I'm glad you get what I'm saying.Smiley  The opinions here interest me.  (Well most of them, that is.)  I can discuss politics anywhere, but I kind of miss discussing the subject here.  However, with some of the attitudes directed at my OP, it's clear that it's probably a bad idea.  Back when I first started posting (2005, maybe?) we were able to have civilized discussions.  I know you have been here a while too.  Remember those days?

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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?


@Plaid Pants2 wrote:

 

 

"You want to discuss politics? Go to Vegas, there you can discuss politics all you want."

 


 

 

You didn't mention South Carolina, now that sure appears political to me.

 

 

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Re: Anyone else feeling the loss of not being able to discuss politics?

It would be nice to discuss certain current events.