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[lovesrecess]

So are cobras, rats, and anything else you deem to be your “emotional support “ animal.....

[lovesrecess]

I think if you can’t fly without your horse, you shouldn’t fly. Take the bus....no, wait...that’s a bad idea with a horse also....😬

[Desertdi]

I wish they had "Ladies Only" seating............

[SahmIam]

My son (who is disabled) has a Level 4 allergy to horses. Our family owns a riding stable/farm that my BIL runs. I have not been to that farm since he was 5 (when we discovered his allergy); he is 22 now.

* he can not be near anyone who has been to the farm

* he can not ride in a car that someone else who has been near a horse has been in.

* if you shower, change your clothes but wear the same shoes that were at the farm/near horses and walk in our home and he touches ANY part of his body (feet or hands) where your shoes have been, it will trigger an allergic reaction.

* his clothes can be washed or dried in the same machines as clothes or anything that has been near a horse has been washed in. And so it goes....

Because miniature horses are allowed on flights, we have essentially stopped flying with him. The air is recirculated every 15 minutes on a plane so animal dander is floating through out the entire aircraft no matter where you sit; deadly for him. Therefore, calling and making sure there is no horse on the plane isn't enough; we need to know if there has been a horse on the plane within the past 2 MONTHS  because they don't flush the air system between flights. 

I understand the need for support and service animals; my son has one now. Bringing his dog would be an issue due to his size so...not happening. We drive instead unless there is no possible way to get there by car. I feel for everyone involved because someone is going to pay the price no matter what is done.

[dex]

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@Kachina624 wrote:

Now they are supposedly training. miniature horses as service animals,  not emotional support.  I hear the airlines have put a stop to transporting exotic emotional support animals.

I have owned horses and have been around them a lot.  Somebody would have to be out of their mind to trust a horses to safely navigate city traffic or sidewalk hazards if they were blind.  Horses are not the brightest of animals and they panic easily.

What do you do with a panicked horses during an in-flight emergency or landing?  What do you do if oxygen is needed?  How do you fasten his little seat belt during very rough weather?  What happens if he can't keep his balance and falls on people?  Kicks or thrashes around?

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TPTB haven't thought that far ahead, only thing they know is animals come first.

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What happens if the horse becomes upset and kicks out a window or piece of the plane?I think emotional support animals should be dogs or smaller animals with maximum weight allowance for planes.i don’t think I would want to sit next to a horse...I have been bitten and it was really painful.

[Wsmom]

Big difference between "service animals" and "emotional support animals".

Service animal is well trained and performs a service. 

An emotional support animal has become the pet that people don't want to leave at home to go to the mall, to go to eat; don't want to leave them at home on a trip or crate them.  They are offensive IMO because it makes it that much harder for people with true service animals.  I don't want to walk into Nordstrom with some woman sitting there with her dog growling at everybody who walks in and out of the store.  What happens when a 3 y/o, mouth level with that dog walks by.  People are just entitled idots.  And worse, the laws change to accomodate them, i.e., if I am allergic to dogs and am already seated and eating, the person who brings in fifi gets to trump me and out I go.  One restaurant we were at, the emotional support animal was huge, lying down and blocking the aisle to the tables so we had to go way around so as not to disturb it.  What a joke.  Won't be a problem for long, where I live in CA restaurants are closing weekly due to the hike in minimum wage.  Who would've guessed.

[itsmetoo]

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@lovesrecess wrote:
Many animals have died being shipped in a crate with cargo. Deadly heat or freezing cold seemed to have been the cause of death. Can’t think of anything more cruel than sticking any animal in a crate and putting it on the cargo are of the plane.

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@lovesrecess Then leave your animal at home! 

[itsmetoo]

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@Wsmom wrote:

Big difference between "service animals" and "emotional support animals".

Service animal is well trained and performs a service. 

An emotional support animal has become the pet that people don't want to leave at home to go to the mall, to go to eat; don't want to leave them at home on a trip or crate them.  They are offensive IMO because it makes it that much harder for people with true service animals.  I don't want to walk into Nordstrom with some woman sitting there with her dog growling at everybody who walks in and out of the store.  What happens when a 3 y/o, mouth level with that dog walks by.  People are just entitled idots.  And worse, the laws change to accomodate them, i.e., if I am allergic to dogs and am already seated and eating, the person who brings in fifi gets to trump me and out I go.  One restaurant we were at, the emotional support animal was huge, lying down and blocking the aisle to the tables so we had to go way around so as not to disturb it.  What a joke.  Won't be a problem for long, where I live in CA restaurants are closing weekly due to the hike in minimum wage.  Who would've guessed.

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And what about the animals in grocery stores, laying in the cart where you put your food.  People in this country have lost their minds. 

[Anonymous032819]

I think people are thinking that the airlines are allowing full size horses, the size of Secretariat on board.

A miniature horse ( and the key word here is "miniature") can be no more than 38 inches tall at the shoulder.

That is a scant over 3 feet.

A yard.

And I have seen miniature horses that were more well behaved than some yappy ankle biting toy dogs.

"Kick out a window"?

Please.

People are acting like the miniature horse is going to go galloping up and down the aisle.

I don't think very many people have actually seen a miniature horse up close and personal before, and therefore are unaware of what a can and cannot do.

Here's an article that talks about miniature horses, and how docile they actually are.

https://www.canidae.com/blog/2012/01/guide-horses-for-blind/

[sunshine45]

@Anonymous032819 

i posted a photo of the horse earlier in the thread. it is definitely smaller than a regular horse, but still pretty large for airplane travel.

is that horse just going to hang out in the aisle because it surely isnt going to sit in a seat or go under a seat.

they dont even let you hold your purse when taking off.....it has to be stored under the seat or in the bulkhead. they want you to keep your seatbelts fastened for everyones security, but the horse will be just hanging out?

https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights#Airline%20Safety-and-Security