Re: Another traffic situation

goldensrbest · ‎03-10-2010

I hate these long post,when answering ,just put @ in front of who you are answering.

When you lose some one you L~O~V~E, that Memory of them, becomes a TREASURE.

151949 · ‎03-09-2010

To all those who feel they don't need to pull over to get out ofemergency vehicles way - I hope when it's YOU or your loved one in that ambulance bleeding to death that no one obstructs your way to the hospital, or when it is your house on fire that no one obstructs the fire trucks on their way to your home. I have 3 nephews who are firemen, 2 paramedics and one cop in the family. Yeah, we are one of those families! Anyway they talk all the time about how hard it is to resist just ramming that fire truck or ambulance right thru those vehicles that won't get out of the way.

Isobel Archer · ‎04-04-2015

I don't mean to "twist anyone's words." If I have misunderstood, I am sorry.

However, it seems clear to me you said that moving off the road for an ambulance is "not required by law" so people should NOT be expected to do it.

If that is not what you said @CrazyDaisy I am sorry.

But avoiding an accident - or getting out of the way of a car on fire is reasonable to you. So is that because it would involve avoiding personal injury or death - or are you saying that you would do it only because insurance requires you to mitigate damages (and if that were not the case, you would NOT move out of the way because nothing requires you do so.

Again I am not trying to twist words, but to understand. I sincerely do NOT understand why people would willingly block an ambulance when they could get out of the way. You have stated it is all the ambulance driver's responsibility and I - and others have questioned that. I'm also not sure how the police could have done any better - since unless people moved, they could not get through either.

I guess they could have started giving tickets - but you've already said the people were not disobeying any law so on what basis could they even do that?

My argument is simply this - if you would move to save your own life, have a little compassion for someone waiting for an ambulance or fire truck. Why is that so unreasonable?

sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

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I still say it is inexcusable for those in the right lane not to move off the road. I don't care what their schedule was or that they would be inconvenienced by having to then get back into traffic after the emergency vehicles passed. That's what you do.

@Isobel Archer

ITA.

If a First Responder has lights/siren on, you must get out of the way.

If that means pulling over on the side of the road,

you get out of the way.

If that means pulling onto a side street,

you get out of the way.

If that means being re-routed 10 min from your usual routine,

you get out of the way.

Law or not.

👏It👏Is👏The👏Right👏The👏To👏Do.

If someone still doesn’t understand this basic traffic practice,

they are part of the problem.

CrazyDaisy · ‎03-20-2010

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I don't mean to "twist anyone's words." If I have misunderstood, I am sorry.

However, it seems clear to me you said that moving off the road for an ambulance is "not required by law" so people should NOT be expected to do it.

If that is not what you said @CrazyDaisy I am sorry.

But avoiding an accident - or getting out of the way of a car on fire is reasonable to you. So is that because it would involve avoiding personal injury or death - or are you saying that you would do it only because insurance requires you to mitigate damages (and if that were not the case, you would NOT move out of the way because nothing requires you do so.

Again I am not trying to twist words, but to understand. I sincerely do NOT understand why people would willingly block an ambulance when they could get out of the way. You have stated it is all the ambulance driver's responsibility and I - and others have questioned that. I'm also not sure how the police could have done any better - since unless people moved, they could not get through either.

I guess they could have started giving tickets - but you've already said the people were not disobeying any law so on what basis could they even do that?

My argument is simply this - if you would move to save your own life, have a little compassion for someone waiting for an ambulance or fire truck. Why is that so unreasonable?

You continue to completely miss the point. But that is OK

Someday, when scientists discover the center of the Universe....some people will be disappointed it is not them.

Isobel Archer · ‎04-04-2015

wrote:
wrote:
I don't mean to "twist anyone's words." If I have misunderstood, I am sorry.

However, it seems clear to me you said that moving off the road for an ambulance is "not required by law" so people should NOT be expected to do it.

If that is not what you said @CrazyDaisy I am sorry.

But avoiding an accident - or getting out of the way of a car on fire is reasonable to you. So is that because it would involve avoiding personal injury or death - or are you saying that you would do it only because insurance requires you to mitigate damages (and if that were not the case, you would NOT move out of the way because nothing requires you do so.

Again I am not trying to twist words, but to understand. I sincerely do NOT understand why people would willingly block an ambulance when they could get out of the way. You have stated it is all the ambulance driver's responsibility and I - and others have questioned that. I'm also not sure how the police could have done any better - since unless people moved, they could not get through either.

I guess they could have started giving tickets - but you've already said the people were not disobeying any law so on what basis could they even do that?

My argument is simply this - if you would move to save your own life, have a little compassion for someone waiting for an ambulance or fire truck. Why is that so unreasonable?

You continue to completely miss the point. But that is OK

What point am I missing?

151949 · ‎03-09-2010

As I'm sitting here reading this an ambulance was trying to get by 2 cars who stopped but did not get out of his way- the ambulance had to jump the curb and drive on the grass and sidewalk to get past them.As he did he gave them a couple hard blasts with his horn.

Isobel Archer · ‎04-04-2015

Still not sure what point I am missing - that every major street should be reingineered with shoulders, that emergency responders should - upon encountering traffic, reroute to side streets (that could be more dangerous and certainly will be slower than a straight shot down the major street), that laws need to be changed to enumerate every possible way to get out of emergency vehicles' way.

And that until - and unless - that happens, well then people waiting for an ambulance or fire truck are just at the mercy of people who refuse to be inconvenienced - because they do NOT HAVE TO BE under current law.

And yet, as noted - none of the above changes has to happen for people to take immediate action when their own personal interests are at stake.

Wow.

depglass · ‎03-10-2010

Around here you can get a ticket for not pulling over. What a bunch of short-sighted selfish people. It might be you in that ambulance one of these days. (Especially if you choose to block traffic)