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Re: Another side to the free rent issue

This is why we NEVER would have a tenant.  We want NO issues with that.  Bli me charlie!  It's bad enough to get through one day without that hassle.  I don't want no hassle in my castle!  Just kidding.   Seriously though.  I DO feel sorry for the poor lady that lost her husband and she said he was wheel chair bound since he was very young.  I think that fact alone is enough to destroy anyone.

 

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue


@gertrudecloset wrote:

What does this have to do with "free rent?"


 

It doesn't.  OP didn't say if the tenants were paying rent but it sounds like they were since income was mentioned. I am sorry for the woman's plight but also understand why the judge ruled this way given covid rules. When the state/country ends the covid eviction rule, she can proceed.

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue

Wow.  This is the biggest mess I've stirred up since the great Ina Garten - Baked Potato fiasco years ago.  I didn't read all this last night, but I did right now.  To restate the issue to the limits of my knowledge:  My friend was in tears from stress, this was months after husband's death.  The reason she wanted to sell the Arizona house was because the retired tenants stopped paying rent when the Covid situation arose. Since she had lost both her husband's disability check and her care giver check when he died, she was scrambling to find some way to support herself. At this point she may have to sell her residence in Michigan, but she didn't tell me that.

 

I posted this thread simply to remind people there are two sides to every problem. I was not trying to make a political statement.   

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue

I've been on the other side of the fence, so to speak.  As I've said here often, it never leaves you once you experience it.

 

I don't understand why so many people don't seem to be worried about all of this!

 

No one in the public eye is coming up with solutions or mentioning the foreboding  actions that are soon to come.

 

Everything I watch on TV, when discussing anything pertaining to people, is always broken down to percentages.  I understand that makes it easier to discuss.

 

However, I can't help but feel like, if instead of giving the percentages, they would say the number of people affected by COVID.

 

The people who lost everything.  I keep hearing there are a large number of people who are getting so much money from the government, it's more than what they'd get if they go to work.

 

I caught the tale end of a discussion between a restaurant owner and interviewer.  I heard the restaurant owner say that he offered to pay a dishwasher $21 per hour and STILL could not find anyone who wanted the job.

 

I have no idea if he was exaggerating or not.  If that's true, it's really sad.

 

All my life I've always heard about how Americans are always ready, willing and ...yes...able to work to get what they want.

 

This guy was saying something totally different from that.

 

 

 

I was just talking to my son-in-law this afternoon.  He shook his head in agreement that COVID has caused the gap between the 'haves and the 'have nots' to grow even wider....with the 'have nots' tipping the scale with increasing numbers.

 

It just seems like the people in this country are so often just a number that is translated into percentages.

 

So many people lost everything with the onset of COVID.  People suddenly didn't even have enough food and had to wait in long lines just to get food.  Many of these same people were the one's who just a few months ago were considered middle class (financially).

 

 

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue

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@chickenbutt wrote:

It seems odd that a tenant can have the power to not allow an owner to show the property.   Is this universal, or just an anomaly in some places?   It just seems wrong.  The tenant doesn't have any ownership privileges, to my knowledge.


Depends on the state laws and regulations. The tenant can still be difficult by allowing showings but leave the property in a disgusting shape just to put off the buyers. Thinking rotten food smells, dog poo on the carpets, having pots under the sink to catch leaks, etc. 

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue


@Annabellethecat66 wrote:

I've been on the other side of the fence, so to speak.  As I've said here often, it never leaves you once you experience it.

 

I don't understand why so many people don't seem to be worried about all of this!

 

No one in the public eye is coming up with solutions or mentioning the foreboding  actions that are soon to come.

 

Everything I watch on TV, when discussing anything pertaining to people, is always broken down to percentages.  I understand that makes it easier to discuss.

 

However, I can't help but feel like, if instead of giving the percentages, they would say the number of people affected by COVID.

 

The people who lost everything.  I keep hearing there are a large number of people who are getting so much money from the government, it's more than what they'd get if they go to work.

 

I caught the tale end of a discussion between a restaurant owner and interviewer.  I heard the restaurant owner say that he offered to pay a dishwasher $21 per hour and STILL could not find anyone who wanted the job.

 

I have no idea if he was exaggerating or not.  If that's true, it's really sad.

 

All my life I've always heard about how Americans are always ready, willing and ...yes...able to work to get what they want.

 

This guy was saying something totally different from that.

 

 

 

I was just talking to my son-in-law this afternoon.  He shook his head in agreement that COVID has caused the gap between the 'haves and the 'have nots' to grow even wider....with the 'have nots' tipping the scale with increasing numbers.

 

It just seems like the people in this country are so often just a number that is translated into percentages.

 

So many people lost everything with the onset of COVID.  People suddenly didn't even have enough food and had to wait in long lines just to get food.  Many of these same people were the one's who just a few months ago were considered middle class (financially).

 

 


He's not exaggerating about the $21 per hour.  Restaurants and small businesses in our area are really hurting - and are indeed offering those wages.  And yet - people are staying home - with the government checks.  Yes those checks will eventually end - but in the meantime - what happens to those who have to go out of business?

 

Just yesterday I saw a posting on my Nextoor app begging people to consider working in this man's restaurant.

 

It's very very sad indeed.  

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue

Yikes! I did not read every post word for word, some of them are novels.

 

But from what I can read between the lines, is there is a whole lot of missing information in the original post, and a lot of answers are based on speculation, however well meaning they are.

 

Sadly, the widow is having to deal with some type of housing problem just after the death of her hubby.  So tragic and sad for her.

 

The poor lady needs to see a lawyer to help her with the housing problem.  I also hope she can get some type of help for her financially as well.

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue

You do need a lawyer in many of these situations if you want to find a legal way to evict.  It is increasingly complex, depending on what state you are in.  

 

 

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue


@Isobel Archer wrote:

@Annabellethecat66 wrote:

I've been on the other side of the fence, so to speak.  As I've said here often, it never leaves you once you experience it.

 

I don't understand why so many people don't seem to be worried about all of this!

 

No one in the public eye is coming up with solutions or mentioning the foreboding  actions that are soon to come.

 

Everything I watch on TV, when discussing anything pertaining to people, is always broken down to percentages.  I understand that makes it easier to discuss.

 

However, I can't help but feel like, if instead of giving the percentages, they would say the number of people affected by COVID.

 

The people who lost everything.  I keep hearing there are a large number of people who are getting so much money from the government, it's more than what they'd get if they go to work.

 

I caught the tale end of a discussion between a restaurant owner and interviewer.  I heard the restaurant owner say that he offered to pay a dishwasher $21 per hour and STILL could not find anyone who wanted the job.

 

I have no idea if he was exaggerating or not.  If that's true, it's really sad.

 

All my life I've always heard about how Americans are always ready, willing and ...yes...able to work to get what they want.

 

This guy was saying something totally different from that.

 

 

 

I was just talking to my son-in-law this afternoon.  He shook his head in agreement that COVID has caused the gap between the 'haves and the 'have nots' to grow even wider....with the 'have nots' tipping the scale with increasing numbers.

 

It just seems like the people in this country are so often just a number that is translated into percentages.

 

So many people lost everything with the onset of COVID.  People suddenly didn't even have enough food and had to wait in long lines just to get food.  Many of these same people were the one's who just a few months ago were considered middle class (financially).

 

 


He's not exaggerating about the $21 per hour.  Restaurants and small businesses in our area are really hurting - and are indeed offering those wages.  And yet - people are staying home - with the government checks.  Yes those checks will eventually end - but in the meantime - what happens to those who have to go out of business?

 

Just yesterday I saw a posting on my Nextoor app begging people to consider working in this man's restaurant.

 

It's very very sad indeed.  


I find it hard to believe that someone would turn down a $21 ($840 for a 40 hour week) an hour job to continue receiving basic UE (a fraction of previous earnings) plus $300.

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Re: Another side to the free rent issue


@Marp wrote:

@Isobel Archer wrote:

He's not exaggerating about the $21 per hour.  Restaurants and small businesses in our area are really hurting - and are indeed offering those wages.  And yet - people are staying home - with the government checks.  Yes those checks will eventually end - but in the meantime - what happens to those who have to go out of business?

 

Just yesterday I saw a posting on my Nextoor app begging people to consider working in this man's restaurant.

 

It's very very sad indeed.  


I find it hard to believe that someone would turn down a $21 ($840 for a 40 hour week) an hour job to continue receiving basic UE (a fraction of previous earnings) plus $300.


A quick google search just told me that the maximum benefit (including the $300) is in California at $750. Below the stated $21/hr stated. It is MUCH lower in other states. Given the maximum UI is given for higher earners and proportionately reduces the less a person was earning, there is no way a minimum wage worker or someone who relies on tips is receiving that much. No one on UI is making $21/hr. 


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