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On 7/2/2014 wookie said: I would love to learn more about living a more minimalistic life. I have way too much "stuff," and am always finding more "stuff" I think I "need." Of course, there are things I actually do need that someone else wouldn't consider necessary.
A really good book on the subject is "The Joy of Less" A Minimalist Living Guide by Francine Jay. Very motivating!
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Fate whispers to her, "You cannot withstand the storm." She whispers back, "I am the storm."

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On 7/2/2014 SoftRaindrops said:
On 7/2/2014 wookie said: I would love to learn more about living a more minimalistic life. I have way too much "stuff," and am always finding more "stuff" I think I "need." Of course, there are things I actually do need that someone else wouldn't consider necessary.
A really good book on the subject is "The Joy of Less" A Minimalist Living Guide by Francine Jay. Very motivating!
Thank you!
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On 7/2/2014 wookie said:
On 7/2/2014 SoftRaindrops said:
On 7/2/2014 wookie said: I would love to learn more about living a more minimalistic life. I have way too much "stuff," and am always finding more "stuff" I think I "need." Of course, there are things I actually do need that someone else wouldn't consider necessary.
A really good book on the subject is "The Joy of Less" A Minimalist Living Guide by Francine Jay. Very motivating!
Thank you!
You're welcome. I really was inspired by a lot of the suggestions. Hope you enjoy it.
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to the OP just to be clear about what you wrote:

My main point was about the quote from IamMrsG about the "sin to lack faith" argument, and that by citing that, gives credibility to those who would be lazy and not keep enough of their things or prepare to give to others, or validates that it is OK to constantly consume and dispose of things that they or others near them may need to replace in the future. People who keep a reasonable amount of "things" are not being evil or sinful or lacking faith that they will be provided for, which is what her statement was saying to me. People who keep a reasonable amount of useful things are better able to have what they (and possibly others around them) might need in dire times. Anything from a job loss, to a death in the family to a natural disaster. They can, in fact, be more of a blessing, and less of a burden in such times.

And you told me the austerity of the home I pasted lacked personality, was cold,impersonal and the person who lived there had no sense of what home is. At least be consistent in your posting.

The minimalist room has everything one "needs" chairs, windows to let in the light, flowers to look at, a nice soft rug and one can then do whatever they please to fill in the gaps, read, practice yoga, meditate, talk to guests.

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On 7/2/2014 Opurrra said:
On 7/2/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 7/2/2014 ------ said:

Sometimes threads like this seem resentful of modern life. I'm not sure why that is. Having luxuries doesn't mean one is void of happiness just as a lack of luxuries means one has a happy/ier life. I don't see one as being preferable over the other. It's finding a balance.

I agree, and resentful of what it is thought some others might have.

Resentful? I don't see anyone on this 'line' being resentful. Well maybe you are resenting the OP for starting a thread and having an opinion that you don't agree with it. You can't prove her wrong either. It's her opinion and it's not a stereotype.

1 out of 2 marriages fail in this country and the number one reason is over money. The house hunter show might not represent the majority of Americans but it certainly does represent many who overextend themselves to satisfy their wants, not their needs.

Since you quoted me as well I will reply.

Have you tried to buy a home lately? It is extremely difficult to qualify today. I recently sold a property and the hoops the buyers had to go through to get a loan stunned me. Back tax statements had to come directly from the IRS, months of pay stubs that proved steady regular income had to be produced, certified documents from banks showing a consistent balance above a certain amount, etc. Unless there are extraordinary circumstances overextending when it comes to purchasing a home is a thing of the past.

And there are shows on HGTV (like Property Brothers and Property Virgin with Egypt Sherrod) that place a more realistic emphasis on property buying.

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Gato, you are absolutely correct about the difficulty in obtaining a mortgage nowadays. Prior to the economic crash in 2008, you practically wrote your own loan and terms. Those days are GONE.
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On 7/2/2014 wookie said: Gato, you are absolutely correct about the difficulty in obtaining a mortgage nowadays. Prior to the economic crash in 2008, you practically wrote your own loan and terms. Those days are GONE.

Hi wookie! Do you remember the credit cards that were just about handed out on street corners? Every week I got several credit card applications in the mail. I even got credit cards I never applied for.

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On 7/2/2014 ------ said:
On 7/2/2014 Opurrra said:
On 7/2/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 7/2/2014 ------ said:

Sometimes threads like this seem resentful of modern life. I'm not sure why that is. Having luxuries doesn't mean one is void of happiness just as a lack of luxuries means one has a happy/ier life. I don't see one as being preferable over the other. It's finding a balance.

I agree, and resentful of what it is thought some others might have.

Resentful? I don't see anyone on this 'line' being resentful. Well maybe you are resenting the OP for starting a thread and having an opinion that you don't agree with it. You can't prove her wrong either. It's her opinion and it's not a stereotype.

1 out of 2 marriages fail in this country and the number one reason is over money. The house hunter show might not represent the majority of Americans but it certainly does represent many who overextend themselves to satisfy their wants, not their needs.

Since you quoted me as well I will reply.

Have you tried to buy a home lately? It is extremely difficult to qualify today. I recently sold a property and the hoops the buyers had to go through to get a loan stunned me. Back tax statements had to come directly from the IRS, months of pay stubs that proved steady regular income had to be produced, certified documents from banks showing a consistent balance above a certain amount, etc. Unless there are extraordinary circumstances overextending when it comes to purchasing a home is a thing of the past.

And there are shows on HGTV (like Property Brothers and Property Virgin with Egypt Sherrod) that place a more realistic emphasis on property buying.

Rightfully so it is very difficult to obtain a mortgage.

Overextending can also represent a combination of; a qualified mortgage, several approved credit cards, his and her car loans, etc., a wife who co-signed on a mortgage and then immediately got pregnant and stopped working, relying on one income to carry the loan.