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It seems as though it might be essential or at the least, helpful, to get all the principals together at the ranch and reenact the day's events.   There's too much "could have" and "would have" or "might" being bantered about. 

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I hope the investigation doesn't get bungled up.

 

I guess they did all their questioning w/Baldwin.  They don't even know where he is?

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@Lucky Charm 

 

Everyone knows where Alec is, pics were posted of the family loading up their vehicle and going to their Hampton retreat, they're not in hiding.

 

There are also photos of him meeting Halyna's husband and son, hugging at the airport when they arrived to pick up her ashes.

 

Ukrainian Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins’ Husband Says Alec Baldwin Has Been ‘Very Supportive’ After Her On-Set Death

 

Her father has also posted on social media that he doen't blame Alec either, he blames the armorer.

 

I've never cared for Alec as a person, but I don't think that should affect judgement of this particular accident, JMO.

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@KingstonsMom wrote:

@Lucky Charm 

 

Everyone knows where Alec is, pics were posted of the family loading up their vehicle and going to their Hampton retreat, they're not in hiding.

 

There are also photos of him meeting Halyna's husband and son, hugging at the airport when they arrived to pick up her ashes.

 

Ukrainian Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins’ Husband Says Alec Baldwin Has Been ‘Very Supportive’ After Her On-Set Death

 

Her father has also posted on social media that he doen't blame Alec either, he blames the armorer.

 

I've never cared for Alec as a person, but I don't think that should affect judgement of this particular accident, JMO.


No, I'm not saying he's on the lam or something.  It's just if they need him for questioning (more), they would want to see him in person.

 

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They said at the press conference regarding charges, "nothing is off the table". I'm Sorry, as the Producer, utilizing weapons, you have accountability to keep people safe. There are defined rules that were supposed to be followed. There should be oversight.  Why was it a young, inexperienced person as an armorer? And they said there were 'live' rounds on the set, why? A lot of mysterious questions- 

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The head armorer on the set of "Rust" told authorities she took all the necessary steps to secure the gun that killed the cinematographer ... but the assistant director confessed the gun was not thoroughly checked before Alec Baldwin fired the fatal round.

 

According to a new search warrant, obtained by TMZ, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed told authorities the day of the shooting she had checked the ammo -- which she called the "dummies," meaning they were not live rounds. She added there were never live rounds on the set.

 

She went on to say the gun was locked up in a safe in a prop truck during the lunch break and taken out shortly before the fatal scene. The implication -- she's saying the gun appeared safe to her, because it wasn't messed with it during lunch. She did, however, say there were a few people who had access to the safe.

 

Assistant director David Halls -- the person who handed the weapon to Baldwin and called it a "cold gun" -- confessed when she showed him the firearm before rehearsal he could only remember seeing 3 rounds. He admitted he should have checked all of the rounds, and doesn't remember if Hannah spun the drum before she handed him the gun, and he, in turn, handed it to Baldwin.

 

After cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and director Joel Souza were shot, Halls says he inspected the chamber and he remembers seeing at least 4 dummy casings with the signature hole on the side, and one without the hole. He said the one without the hole didn't have a cap ... the implication is it was the remains of a live round of ammunition.

 

This all points to a lapse of safety precautions on the set, and that's something the District Attorney is now looking at in determining if criminal charges should be filed. The D.A. said charges are on the table for everyone involved. Authorities want to speak with Baldwin again and they want to review the employment history of both Halls and Gutierrez-Reed before making a filing decision.

 

As we reported, Halls was fired from a previous job over safety issues, and Gutierrez-Reed was a novice who only worked on one film as head armorer before "Rust," and even expressed fears over performing the lead role.

 
 
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@Skyegirl21 wrote:

Ya know, someone  is sooooo stupidly negligent, or worse-  Not only did he pull the trigger (why would any adult, even if kidding around), but he was the Producer, he is responsible for the safety of everyone- He hired a 24 yr old girl for the gun safety staff- Ya really have to wonder?  He got fots in his head (RI) .... don't ask about that quote 🤣🤣🤣


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There are 12 producers for that movie.

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New Mexico sheriff reported that 500 rounds of ammo were found on the set.  I realize that many people don't like Alec Baldwin for many reasons, but please give me a break!  The tragic accident that happened was not his fault.  He will live with this for the rest of his life.  

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This case sounds to me, a little more complex than just, he fired the gun. Each day seems to produce more people/more issues with who did what/when and why! 

 

With so many that are said to have handled this gun, if only it were as simple as, who pulled the trigger. How many handled the gun before Alec had it in his hand? I understand there is a "chain of command" when it comes to guns used in movie scenes.

 

If they decide there was criminality involved in this death, how many that handled that gun, prior to the event, will be charged? And prey tell, what will be their charges?

 

I can see many $$$$ worth of Civil Suits, but Criminal? Will wait till they conclude the investigation.

 

 

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The speculation here and the nasty comments about Baldwin's wealth is ridiculous since it has nothing to do with the case.   The investigation continues.  Let's find out the facts before we accuse people.  What a smutty gossip rag this place is.