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[Cakers3]

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@physicsnut wrote:

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         Women in broadcasting wear this attire daily now - not JUST on FOX.  I see women on GMA,  etc wearing the same thing - no big deal. 

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@physicsnut  It is a big deal.  Women have struggled for decades (and continue to do so) to be taking seriously for their contributions in all professions.

A sleeveless dress is one thing; hiked up to the butt is quite another.

It's eye candy and nothing more and negates any real contribution that woman has to say.

Not all women look good that way, either.  The most professional women in the business do not need to be a cookie cutter version; they are there to do the job accurately and professionally.

[MomCat]

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@kivah wrote:

Ailes should have pushed out long ago. Another "rich", "powerful" male taking advantage of females, who had to put up with his "sexual remarks and sexual advances" to keep their jobs. I always believed Gretchen Carlson. Hope many other women come forward with their stories.

I'm sure most of the people "behind-the-scenes" knew what was going on for years.

ShowBiz (and other businesses) are full of perverts!!!!! They need to be removed.

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Wow.  I am all for firing men who do this kind of thing, but my gosh, none of this has been proven.  Even Gretchen was praising this man not that long ago.  I'm willing to wait on some facts.  I find it rather odd what Gretchen has been doing with her FB page.  If she has the proof, it seems like she wouldn't have to take to social media to slam Ailes.

[terrier3]

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@JobGirl wrote:

Wasn't it the Murdochs who are pushing him out the ones that did the bugging?

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No, I think that was Daddy.

[terrier3]

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@Stray wrote:

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@mstyrion 1 wrote:

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@Stray wrote:

He may be out but not relative to the allegations because he hasn't been to court as yet.  

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Under the Anti Sexual harassment regulations, a company is required to take action if an internal investigation reveals harassment did take place. Action can include termination.  A court of law finding is not needed.

In fact, the company can be severely punished and become completely liable if they fail to take action. 

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@mstyrion 1- you are correct.  I've done such investigations in my former Company before retirement.  Fox has been conducting internal investigations which are far better than external because they are confidential and done by neutral people familiar to those being questioned and they are more apt to confide in them rather than have their names in the news .  The internal investigation is NOT complete as yet.  Yes, if they find impropriety he will be terminated as he should be.  If their internal investigation is inconclusive, then, they will have to await a court/mediator decision.  I have found that in the course of these investigations with people at a high level, a financial settlement may be offered in turn for a resignation.  The longer this goes on, the longer Fox's name is in the news and blemished being labeled as a "sexist" or hostile workplace.  Ailes may not have the intestinal fortitude to go through a very public trial if the court decides that this will be a trial or not.  They can't even decide which state will handle the whole mess.  So the whole thing may be very lengthy.  Ailes may care about the network itself or just self preservation and he is in his 70s.  The Murdochs care about the network only not Carlson nor Ailes; it's business and preservation of the organization.  

 However, Ailes can not be terminated based on allegations only unless he agrees to leave with a settlement.  Our justice system is based on the fact that you are innocent until proven guilty even in the most heinous of crimes.  To this date, to my knowledge, he has not been proven guilty only in the court of public opinion.  I am not supporting Ailes, but awaiting the facts before judgement. 

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Ailes works in New York State.

You can be fired in NY State "at will." No reason has to be given at all, as long as you don't fall into a protected class of workers - disabled, pregnant, racial, etc.

I'm sure he works on a contract with several severance clauses. They can fight out his settlement in court.

[JJsMom]

I just saw that Megyn Kelley is now saying Ailes harassed her too.